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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:02 AM
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My Wild Fantasy About John McCain
Sen. McCain intrigues me. He votes his conscience against the GOP fray a lot of times, and you KNOW he's GOTTA be pissed at GWB!

I think he could probably blow off the fact that GWB's campaign smeared him big time during the 2000 primaries and that he undermines any serious effort at campaign finance reform for obvious, and evil, reasons.

So OK he could go with that. But now he's watching the "post war" get so fucked up. He's relating to the guys out there. GWB hopping the fundraisers, sending form letters to the families of the dead soldiers, and now, plotting a "victory" right before the election.

Tell me DU-ers...is it conceivable that even though the guy's a GOP and a politician, that it will all eat away at him enough for him to not support Bush next year and would that not be HUGE?
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rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:04 AM
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1. I like McCain too
I just don't see him doing that, he's always been such the "good soldier." But it would be awesome if it happened.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:07 AM
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3. It Must Be Really Hard For Him...
Having been a POW and everything...to see Mr. AWOL and Rummy, how can he stand it? I know he will probably suck it up but I gotta tell you -- I think we are in for a wild ride here.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:05 AM
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2. I think he'll support Bush
Unfortunately
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:10 AM
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4. Well, Like I Say....
It's a wild fantasy! But do you see ANY GOP Senator or Congressman breaking ranks? Not only Iraq the but spending, the special interests....and just...God I'll bet a lot of them hate the GWB crew as much as we do!
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:13 AM
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5. No. The Party would snub him.
He'd be finished in the Republican Party and would have to become an Independent. He would become useless in Congress without any supporters or friends, otherwise. "It takes a village."
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:14 AM
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6. If the GOP put up a candidate to run against Bush
or a credible conservative independent ran...no doubt, Bush would lose a lot of Republican votes.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:25 AM
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7. How about a Dean/McCain ticket
Bipartisan tickets have been proposed in the past, and maybe we'll get one next year. Wouldn't that be something?
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burning bush Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:58 AM
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10. Lincoln did it!
and won!
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mb7588a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 05:50 AM
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12. Lincoln's guy was tried for impeachment.
So umm...

"With the Assassination of Lincoln, the Presidency fell upon an old-fashioned southern Jacksonian Democrat of pronounced states' rights views. Although an honest and honorable man, Andrew Johnson was one of the most unfortunate of Presidents. Arrayed against him were the Radical Republicans in Congress, brilliantly led and ruthless in their tactics. Johnson was no match for them."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/aj17.html

ACK. I went to the White House's site. :( LIES!

Not sure that would happen to McCain though.
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tlb Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:54 AM
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8. Clutching at straws.
Mccain will support the ticket in 04 as he did on 2000.
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burning bush Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 02:57 AM
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9. McCain Would Be An Ideal 3rd Party Candidate
But which 3rd Party?

Reform Party?

What if the Bull Moose Party were to revive? McCain could lead a Teddy Roosevelt-like revolt, and start a new Conservative/Progressive movement.

The worst that could happen would be that he would win the GE.

Is that so bad?
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MinnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 04:10 AM
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11. MY wild McCain fantasy ...
....is for him to jump the GOP ship and start dissing bush/cheney for their lack of vietnam-era service.and wind up on the dem ticket.

he and clark, or kerry, for example, could simply blister the GOP weasels from pillar to post...
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:48 AM
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13. he's a hawk that very much supports the invasions.
you'd think he'd learned his lesson. moron.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 06:59 AM
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14. That would be fantastic
You know he doesn't like Bush... and not even just for his dirty primary tricks but for the mishandling of Iraq and for his out of this world deficit. McCain was quoted as saying that Congress and Bush are spending money like "drunken sailors."

However, with that said, even if in his heart McCain wanted Bush to lose, he would never publicly support the Dem. candidate. It just would never happen, unfortunately.
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kvnf Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 07:10 AM
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15. i want him as an independant
Imagine him running as a 3rd party candidate in 04. He would do for our candidate what Perot did for Clinton...
(I'm new to this, but I'm assuming conventional wisdom is that Perot handed Clinton the election)
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