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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:10 PM
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AL GORE'S endorsement was the highlight
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 03:11 PM by Frenchie4Clark
I agree with this reporter's assessement of Dean's performance at the debate last night.


http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2003/12/10/
JOAN VENNOCHI
Dean mumbles and rambles
By Joan Vennochi, 12/10/2003
AL GORE'S endorsement was the highlight of Howard Dean's day. From there, it was all downhill.
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Dean was talking fast, but not particularly
clearly or straight.

Asked about comments he made about whether he believes President Bush was forewarned about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Dean mumbled something about it being "the most interesting theory."

Asked under what circumstances it is appropriate for the commander in chief to lie, he referred vaguely to "some sort of national security matters."

He rambled when asked whether he agreed with Senator Hillary Clinton's view that the United States must keep troops in Iraq for an extended period of time and finally said yes.

Curiously, Dean complained that too much time was allocated to discussing Iraq and not enough to the economy. His antiwar stance made his candidacy.Why not talk about it, unless the former Vermont governor fears the discussion will reveal gaps in knowledge and experience?

Finally, Wesley Clark is the most improved candidate on the stage. Watch out, Dr. Dean. An endorsement from a former vice president is no substitute for a former general who knows how to plan and articulate an Iraq exit strategy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:12 PM
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:13 PM
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2. You mean....
When was I going to post a "relevant article"?
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pruner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:18 PM
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5. since Gore's announcement…
over 7,000 Americans have joined the Dean campaign and approx $350,000 has been raised.

giddyup!
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:22 PM
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8. Yeah, when are you going to post a relevant article?
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:15 PM
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4. fric, meet frac
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:15 PM
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3. I concur
Dean cannot debate very well.
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nannygoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:20 PM
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6. Joan Vennochi is a mediawhore
who has been trashing Al Gore and other prominent Dems (John Kerry) for years:

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh020703.shtml

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh021003.shtml

http://www.dailyhowler.com/dailies_wk1.shtml
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:22 PM
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7. Of course
she's a media whore. She wrote an article not favorable to King Dean. :eyes:
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nannygoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:29 PM
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12. I haven't decided who I'm supporting yet at all
Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 03:29 PM by nannygoat
I'm just pointing out that anything this woman writes (no matter who it is about) should be taken with a large grain of salt...
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:29 PM
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13. She seems to be against all dems...
Did you read the post?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:25 PM
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9. Maybe so....
aren't they all....but her assessment of what Dean said during the debate and the problem with it was my assessement as well. I watch and listen to Dean very closely to try to figure out what so many see in him and follow him so loyaly.......What I saw does not me understand it any more than before.
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deaconblue Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:31 PM
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14. Thats just pure Dean Thrashing
for the sake of it. Its blatantly unfair to Dean. He talks fast alright but he was pretty coherent.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:27 PM
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10. Obviously, I disagree
I think Dean's response to when the president should lie was that of someone who was confused by such an idiotic question; I think he was holding back if anything because I'm sure he wanted to say "what kind of stupid-ass debate are you conducting?!"

I don't think he "rambled" re: troops in Iraq. He was clarifying his position. If he didn't, he would be accused of being "vague." Geez, it's like a no-win situation for him!
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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:28 PM
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11. Hi Frenchie..
I agree, Dean was horrible in the debate last night. Just think there are more to come in January.

Of course the funniest thing I've seen all day concerning Dean's campaign was that disaster in South Carolina when Jackson Jr. endorsed him.....

"After Dean's speech, he called people to come forward to register to vote. Those who came forward included a man wearing a coat decorated with a Confederate flag."

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20031207/APN/312070859

Like another poster stated "Careful what you wish for".
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:38 PM
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16. But he registered to vote dem, right?
I think that's great :-)
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Rainbowreflect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-10-03 03:35 PM
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15. Sorry to disagree, but..
Asked about comments he made about whether he believes President Bush was forewarned about the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Dean mumbled something about it being "the most interesting theory."

He didn't mumble, he stated that when asked why 9-11 happened he said that was the most interesting theory, but he did not believe it. Kinda reminds me of the invented the internet B.S.

All the other are half truths & spins as well. And by the way I'm not a Dean supporter, I'm just sick of the feeding frenzy.
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