How can you have a War Crimes tribunal when you aren't apart of the I.C.

sasquatch

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Wed Dec-10-03 05:15 PM
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How can you have a War Crimes tribunal when you aren't apart of the I.C.

:shrug:International Court for those of you that didn't know. I mean that court has as much legal authorization as I do. And I've never been to college.

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sasquatch

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Wed Dec-10-03 05:22 PM
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1. Kick

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karabekian

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Wed Dec-10-03 05:23 PM
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2. how so

Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 05:24 PM by karabekian

the IC has done so much about the genocide of Iraqis and other oppressed people throughout the world :eyes:

In my opinion this is a good thing and it should be left up to Iraqis. They were the victims and this will do a lot to help heal the wounds of 30+ years or repression. I believe that for it to have any legitimacy in the eyes of Iraqis, it will have to be done by Iraqis, and for Iraqis. Not by the US, and not by the IC.

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sasquatch

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Wed Dec-10-03 05:31 PM
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3. Well the IC doesn't work unless you're brought up for charges

The US establishing a WCT is just a waste of time. In order for the former regime to be brought up on charges they need to be sent to the Hague. That would never happen because the BCF would be sent to the same jail they'd be in because of War Crimes as well.

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karabekian

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Wed Dec-10-03 05:49 PM
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4. Was there charges against Saddam and Co by the IC before?

This decision should really be up to Iraqis. I have a feeling they don't want the cushy jail cells and short sentences of the Hauge. I also don't think that most Iraqis have any reservation about the death penalty and would like to see it used in many of these cases.

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sasquatch

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Wed Dec-10-03 05:54 PM
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6. The death penalty can be used in the IC

Saddam was and is protected by the BCF so unless the BCF is brought up then Saddam can't be brought up. The Iraqi's have no real call in this because their goverment was involved.

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Hippo_Tron

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Wed Dec-10-03 05:52 PM
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5. International law is an oxymoron in my opinion...

Especially with the concept of Sovereignty.

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sasquatch

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Wed Dec-10-03 05:57 PM
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7. No Iternational Law is all that keeps us from another WWII

You don't belive ask Roosevelt, Kennedy, Eisonhower or Truman.

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Scott Lee

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Wed Dec-10-03 06:10 PM
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8. Funny that fighting to liberate your country from an invader is a "crime"

What an upside down world we live in.

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sasquatch

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Wed Dec-10-03 06:13 PM
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9. It's a crime according to the Kangaroo court the BCF established

There guy's I swear have to do acid everynight. Because reality is not what they are currently in.

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karabekian

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Wed Dec-10-03 06:37 PM
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14. ~scott lee

Edited on Wed Dec-10-03 06:39 PM by karabekian

so the war crimes crime will have nothing to do with the 30 years of murder and torture perpetrated by Saddam's henchmen.

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tom_paine

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Wed Dec-10-03 06:14 PM
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10. Because the Imperial Family just says it and it is LAW

Just like other Totalitarian Nations.

And I'm sure the Bushevik War Crimes Tribunals will be a pathetic Stalinist joke.

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sasquatch

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Wed Dec-10-03 06:19 PM
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11. I think your right

It would be a Stalinist joke.

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papau

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Wed Dec-10-03 06:30 PM
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12. IC by definition is only crimes 2001 and later - there are many models for

an International Court - problem is to show that IC is able to come up with not quilty or not proven verdicts - and is not just there to hang/jail the losers.

Africa has a few variations - est by treaty between UN and country, or in other ways.

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sasquatch

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Wed Dec-10-03 06:36 PM
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13. What is the Hague then?

I mean I know for damn sure the BCF isn't going to have this court working along side the UN.

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