Dean getting supported by Republicans again!

On Cspan now the Chairman of College Repubs is praising Dean more than he has praised Bush so far!

Apparently his points are:

1. Only honest dem candidate.
2. Only one repubs have to worry about.
3. Only one that can compare to Bush.

These are the same points Rove was making! The more concerning part is that he came out of left field talking about Dean and praising him.

Maybe Rove gave him a call and told him to plug Dean?

It's odd for two solid Republicans that have considerable influence to be plugging Dean - and doing so using the same points.

What do you make of this?

I make decisions based on what I think, not on what the candidate's supporters think or on what Rove thinks.

appeal to crossover voters!
Whatever Rove and GOP think, they best be careful what they wish for because Dean will beat Dumbya like a drum if he gets the nomination!

Rove and the Chairman of College Republicans (that has a web site with the motto "Doing our best! For Bush!") are cross over voters.

yeesh
You know there are Repubs for Dean. I was not saying Rove and the Young Repubs would crossover.
I heard the guy speak, he seemed honest, I did not perceive it as a sinister plot remark. It could be, but...

But now you are saying they are trying to get other republicans to cross over? I can only say "yeesh" to that.

I am saying Dean already appeals to crossover voters - real conservatives who have had it up to their eyeballs with shrub and crew!

I was shocked when they showed his website and it said:

Doing All Our Best, for Bush!

How about that old woman that said we were trying to stop Bush from having his "second turn" at the presidency. Fascist bitch...and the milque toast RNC kid agreed with her. I guess she just into democracy.

Perhaps Dean has crossover appeal, a useful thing to have in a general election.

Or perhaps it's the opposite--they see him as readily beatable.

Or maybe even Repubs are sick of Chimpy.

It's the same tactic that the repukes used in the last Govenor's race in Florida for the Democratic primary.

because they think he's too far left simply because he was against the war and for civil unions. The pukes are scared of Kerry because of his war medals.. look at how vicious they are about Kerry's physical appearance and his wife's ketchup fortune.

I like both Kerry and Dean, but I think Dean will take them by surprise..

This guy is obviously a political operative who works with younger people. He was very praising of Bush, he just could see that Dean was popular on campuses and that's his political focus. So for his group of constituents, Dean is the one to watch.

They're hoping for Dean because Dean tends to suffer 'foot in mouth' disease and as we get closer to the primaries it will become all too apparent that Dean can, and will, say something that is going to get him in trouble.

Just look at what they did to everything Al Gore said. And Al Gore is about as caustic a nominee as the Dems have ever put out.

A bomb-tosser like Dean is probably exactly what Rove wants.

They fear only two candidates.

Kerry and Edwards.

Kerry for his money and war record.

Edwards for his looks and Southern charm.

your analysis is spot on.

Hah! Good one.

If you people only had an inkling of how badly Edwards would be thought of by so many in the general election. He would be painted as an ambulance chasing blood sucking trial lawyer, and unfortunatley much of the public would never get past that fact to look at his record or stands on issues. (In fact, I've even seen him referred to as such by people on this board who should know better!)

Please no flames- I say this as a trial lawyer myself. I have nothing against Edwards- I think he is very bright, articulate and a very good candidate. Except for his profession. If Edwards was a member of almost any other profession, he'd be a great candidate.

But y'all really have no idea of the extremely low esteem in which the legal profession is held by the general public.

The whole "holy moly he's a lawyer" thing is so overblown.

If people hate lawyers so much, why didn't the Jesse Helms/Lauch Faircloth machine use that against him in the Senate race?

Oh that's right, they did.

He won anyway. With no political experience at all.

Dean tends to suffer 'foot in mouth' disease."

i'm starting to think this may be a big part of it.

i forget the 'mistatement' that caused Dean to say "why do i do that?"
(maybe the country club gaff) but i thought to myself, he better figure it out and stop it soon. combine poor verbal control and his alleged poor temper control and you have an easily exploitable liability.

They seem to think he's some kind of radical fringy guy and that he'll be easy to beat. I think they're "misunderestimating" him.

They fear Kerry!

this Trek but I think it is laughable. I think Rove & Co. fear Dean but are going to great lengths to pretend otherwise. I think they fear him greatly cause he came out of nowhere and has got lots of folks fired up already. Many formely disinterested folks are suddenly interested and many have made their first political donations in their lives. There is good reason to fear Dean, he inspires passion and not built on lies and propaganda like the Simian.

To see any of my fellow Dems quake in fear at the thought of Dean getting the nom. cause they believe this is what Team Rove wants, well it saddens me to see them fall for this old-as-dirt ploy.

Julie

would he ever run as an independent?

He is out to destroy this country. If he doesn't get the nomination he will pull a Ralph Nader.

:eyes:

But will his supporters vote for the Dem nominee if it is not him, that is the concern.

(on edit: Well, there is that ONE Dean supporter here who wanted to know if he'd run as an independent to give his supporters a "principled" choice...)

DUers swear up and down that they personally won't defect from the party, and I believe that. It's anyone's guess whether some others will.

Are you going to oppose a candidate just because you don't like his supporters?

My brother in law, a lifelong republican, is voting for him. He says he is embarassed that he voted for Bush. A good friend of mine in Vegas (has supported Bush all along) just dumped Bush and started working for the dean campaign. The lies and WMD drove her away from Bush. she ferverantly believed Bushes claims and now feels that she has been had.

....that if they pretend to back Dean often enough that Dems will turn to someone else in protest and then it will be 1 down and 8 to go.

If they werent so scared of Governor Dean, WHY ARE THEY TRYING SO HARD TO DO SO?

Republicans for Dean
http://republicansfordean.blogspot.com/

Independents for Dean
http://deanindependents.org/

Eloriel

But Rove and this guy are not... I'm sure they are playing some kind of mind game. I just don't know if they really want Dean or not....

As is the case with most of the propping up of the Boy King, this, too will backfire. They can talk-up Dean all they want...do they really think they can then at the last minute on the one-yard line pull out the "anti-war" thing and zap him?

Unless they plan on planting heroin in his car, I doubt they can backpeddle from the good stuff they say about him.

earlier this year that the College Republicans were working actively for Dean in NH. Looks like they expanded their plan nationally. Of course, that college Dem was called "delusional" by SBNA of the Dean supporters.

This is ridiculous. There's a student from NH here who is basically a Republican but is an intern for Dean's campaign. He considers himself a conservative and * a radical. Dean is a centrist and a huge improvement in his eyes. Dean is attracting the Republicans who see through *, and if people can't see that as positive there is nothing that will please them.
BTW: Students do NOT like this war. They know people who are over there It's their friends, and if they're guys the possibility of a draft can't be far from their mind. I would be surprised if young Republicans didn't turn on * in droves.

i do not believe in shooting our own, just keep hitting tWit and vote your choice til Nov.04.
But, the Bushivics better be carefull. We don't NEED a charmer in 04'. alot of people went for 'charm' instead of substance last time, and look where that got them. Vietnam? sorry, the Chimperors carrier landing has clouded the bushies eyes permanently. sort of like sparklers.

the veterans are organizing against Bush all over the country. They will spend the next year in VFW halls and meetings laying out the hypocrisy of Bush AND his agenda that works against the veterans and military families. Fasten your seat belt. By this time next year, there won't be a veteran in the country who hasn't heard about the REAL Bush.

Rove is just doing us favor after favor lately. Should I send a thank-you card? ;-) I think he's an arrogant prick who overstepped. If this were a few hundred years ago, in another screw-up or two, I'd be wondering when his execution was going to be........

Julie

The GOP doesn't understand we are going to run a negative, nasty campaign hammering THEM on defense issues. This bloodbath will hurt them more than us because it will lower Bush's numbers on trust and security.

Other Democrats would prefer to agree with Bush on defense or take a "nuanced" stance and try to win on education or health care. I'll support these guys, though I am wary of the same people who brought us the 2002 debacle.

Bush is the king of lies and he describes Dean as an honest man?? How does that compare? How long can these people protect the Crime Family at the expense of their country?

At best, there may well be "Dean Republicans" out there, many who have turned on the Bushies.

At worst, the College Repukes may be showering false praise on Dean because they think he's the one Bush can most easily beat.

:think: about it.

if what you report is true, and they are plugging Dean I honestly think it may be reverse psychology... trying to get Dean the image of a collaborator to attempt to give him the kiss of death... remember only a month or two ago JEB Bush said that "Dean is such an ultra-leftist that the American people will never elect him." I think what this young repug is saying is true but his motivations for saying it is to sabotage Dean for exactly the reason it is true.

...because we thought him to be too far right wing.

Be careful what you wish for!!

Rove mistakenly believes Dean is too far to the "left"-- a conclusion belied by his record-- and is fu*kin' with our heads with this rot about "bring on Dean".

Let's keep our eye on the ball,elect the best Democrat, and worry about what Rove thinks after the convention.