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AlabamaYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:08 PM
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Anybody have any thoughts about Al Gore for DNC Chair?
This is a late-afternoon-at-the-office semi brainstorm, but what would you all think of Al Gore as the leader of the Democratic National Committee. I've been reading articles about the utter disarray of the committee, and its abandonment of the rank and file party members to go whoring after the corporate big bucks, then came across Sidney Blumenthal's column in Salon (http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2003/12/11/gore/index.html) and it struck me that here we have a legitimate party leader, proven fund raiser and - at times - passionate spokesman. Who better to replace the discredited McAuliff? Personally I'd like to see him be more visible and outspoken. I might even begin giving money to the national party again.
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:10 PM
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1. Not anymore
Al has really discredited himself in the last week.
My purse will stay closed.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:40 PM
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12. It's a great idea
regardless of the above unsubstantiated post

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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:11 PM
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2. I think he would be good, but....
...I am not sure he would be a good choice until after the primaries because he has endorsed a candidate and think that the DNC should be somewhat neutral on candidates.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:11 PM
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3. Sounds good to me, but..........
After endorsing Dean, there's no way in hell that the DNC would allow that to happen.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 05:20 PM
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21. Didn't they say the
nominee would get to pick the DNC Chair position?

As far as I know, Gore would serve well. Have to vet, though, ya know.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:16 PM
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4. Not in this lifetime!!!
eom
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:19 PM
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5. NO! n/t
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GainesT1958 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:19 PM
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6. Well, I WAS for it--if Al didn't run...
Until Tuesday...now I supppose it would be a good thing if Dr. Dean became President Dean and he named Al as DNC Chairman...but, right now, it may be the ONLY way Al could get it, at least until after a few years had passed in the next Dem. Administration other than a Dean Administration.

I just don't like any party "heavyweight" telling me how to vote before the first votes are cast...unions, sure...they are a organization of "everyday" folks. But trying to be kingmaker...and having people say "it's over"...a primal act of spite makes it "over"? I don' freekin' think so! :mad:

What a turnoff...vis-a-vis one candidate in particular, that is!

B-)
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AlabamaYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:25 PM
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9. Gore will campaign hard for whoever's the candidate.
Since I don't have a passionate feeling for any of the candidates I didn't really take the Dean endorsement as that much of an obstacle. Judging from the reactions so far on this thread, I might be wrong. I'm pretty much a "head" over "heart" person, and just want to see the most effective person in the job.
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theivoryqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:21 PM
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7. I thought you said DNC Choir
In which case I'd put him firmly in the tenor section.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:25 PM
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8. no
Should just be an operative, not someone who ran for high office.
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AlabamaYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:48 PM
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14. McAuliffe was an operative
Clinton brought him in as a Big Money man, and to give him credit, he did bring in the big bucks. But he certainly provided nmo inspirational leadership and the grass roots efforts were seriously neglected. We're on the ropes now, and need someone who can rally the base full time to bolster the Democratic candidate's campaign against the BFEE, and then continue while President (your Democratic favorite here) repairs the damage to the country.
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:32 PM
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10. Great Idea
After the candidate is selected. He is backing Dean so it would not be far to put him in now. Ya, I know, Duh.
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:33 PM
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11. I've been thinking the same thing and I love it!
He's the only one with the influence, the respect, and the deep understanding of what this party needs to handle the job as it should be handled. We need a PARTY again, and Al is the man for the job.
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gonefishing Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:41 PM
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13. Bad move!
Edited on Thu Dec-11-03 04:43 PM by gonefishing
I love the guy, but he has a real bad habit of stepping on his (insert your favorite word here).

1) No controlling authority.
2) Letting the world think he said that he invented the Internet. ( I know he didn't actually say that).
3) Not playing nice with Nader in the 2000 campaign. He might have won if he would have just called him.
4) Didn't use Clinton to help him win AR.
5) Acted like a little a baby during his first debate with dubya.
6) Not getting into the White House in 2001 (It should have been a slam dunk).
7) The smart move would have been to make sure he talked to Joe first.
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terrisel Donating Member (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:59 PM
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17. I think Gore is doing just fine.
The fact that he is backing Dean doesn't mean that Dean will be the candidate. It means that Gore has lent his name and prestige to a particular candidate. I think he made a bold move and it has given a lttle more weight and visibility to a particular part of the Democratic Party. I think it is the part that wants to be more responsive to the people than to the corporate elite...and that is fine with me.

Even if Dean doesn't get the nomination, that part of the democratic party will become stronger and have a greater voice.


Incidentally, have you considered that Clinton's support may have come with strings that Gore didn't want to be tied up with?

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gonefishing Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 07:13 PM
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26. What's worse
strings or dubya in the White House?

BTW: I don't have a problem with Gore getting behind a candidate. I just think he could have prevented all the media fodder by trying really hard to get a hold of Joe first.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:57 PM
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15. no thanks
Why the hell can't the Democratic party assert its moral authority by tapping someone who has been at the center of the peoples' struggles?

Hello??

There are Democrats who have been in Selma, walked with MLK, stood against oppression, fought for the principle of one man-one vote, fought for equality and dignity and human rights and civil rights.

Hello??

The Democratic party needs to ask a person of color -- who has moral authority -- to head it up. Let righteous anger roll down.

Damn.
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 05:24 PM
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22. SHARPTON!
Excellent suggestion.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 04:58 PM
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16. A better idea is Bill Clinton
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peabody71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 05:00 PM
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18. How about Sec. of State?
I realize after being elected Pres. it may be al little below him but he's is a fantastic negotiator with load of foreign policy and disarmament experience.

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AlabamaYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 05:17 PM
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19. Clinton would be great as Secretary of State
I'd always thought of Gore as being stornger on domestic issues, probably because of his environmental record. Perhaps Interior Secretary of Domestic Advisor/guru?
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Kosmos Mariner Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 05:19 PM
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20. No Thanks.




:dem:
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 05:26 PM
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23. lol
Very funny!
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 05:27 PM
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24. For awhile
I was thinking that Max Cleland might be a good candidate for DNC chair.

(Not so sure since he left the 9/11 commission...feeling like I do about Al telling me to fall in line)
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 06:19 PM
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25. here's my ideal


Congressman John Lewis, D-Ga.

Official bio:

Described as "One of the most courageous persons the Civil Rights Movement ever produced," John Lewis has dedicated his life to protecting human rights, securing personal dignity and building what he calls "The Beloved Community." He has displayed a sense of ethics and morality that has won him the admiration of many of his colleagues in the United States Congress.

John Lewis was born the son of sharecroppers on February 21, 1940 outside of Troy, Alabama. He grew up on his family's farm and attended segregated public schools in Pike County, Alabama. He holds a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Religion and Philosophy from Fisk University; and he is a graduate of the American Baptist Theological Seminary in Nashville, Tennessee. He has also been awarded numerous honorary degrees from colleges and universities throughout the United States, including Clark Atlanta University, Duke University, Howard University, Brandeis University, Columbia University, Fisk University, Morehouse College, Princeton University and Williams College. John Lewis is the recipient of numerous awards, including the prestigious Martin Luther King, Jr. Non-Violent Peace Prize and the NAACP Spingarn Medal. John Lewis is also the recipient of the John F. Kennedy "Profile in Courage Award" for lifetime achievement and the National Education Association Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial Award.


At an early age, John Lewis developed an unwavering commitment to the Civil Rights Movement. For more than forty years, he has been in the vanguard of progressive social movements and the human rights struggles in the United States. As a student, John Lewis organized sit-in demonstrations at segregated lunch counters in Nashville, Tennessee.

In 1961, John Lewis volunteered to participate in the Freedom Rides, which were organized to challenge segregation at interstate bus terminals across the South. Lewis risked his life and was beaten severely by mobs for participating in the Rides.

During the height of the Civil Rights Movement, from 1963 to 1966, Lewis was the Chairman of the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), which he helped form. SNCC was largely responsible for the sit-ins and other activities of students in the struggle for civil rights.


Despite his youth, John Lewis became a recognized leader in the Civil Rights Movement. By 1963, he was recognized as one of the "Big Six" leaders of the Civil Rights Movement. (The other Big Six leaders were Whitney Young, A. Phillip Randolph, Martin Luther King Jr., James Farmer and Roy Wilkins). Lewis, at the age of 23, was one of the planners and a keynote speaker at the historic "March on Washington" in August 1963.

In 1964, John Lewis coordinated SNCC efforts to organize voters' registration drives and community action programs during the "Mississippi Freedom Summer." The following year, Lewis led one of the most dramatic nonviolent protests of the Movement. Along with fellow activist, Hosea Williams, John Lewis led over 600 marchers across the Edmund Pettus Bridge in Selma, Alabama on March 7, 1965. Alabama state troopers attacked the marchers in a confrontation that became known as "Bloody Sunday." That fateful march and a subsequent march between Selma and Montgomery, Alabama led to the Voting Rights Act of 1965.


Despite more that 40 arrests, physical attacks and serious injuries, John Lewis remained a devoted advocate of the philosophy of nonviolence. After leaving SNCC in 1966, he remained active in the Civil Rights Movement through his work as Associate Director of the Field Foundation and his participation in the Southern Regional Council's voter registration programs. Lewis went on to become the Director of the Voter Education Project (VEP). Under his leadership, the VEP transformed the nation's political climate by adding nearly four million minorities to the voter rolls.

In 1977, John Lewis was appointed by President Jimmy Carter to direct more than 250,000 volunteers of ACTION, the federal volunteer agency.

John Lewis's first electoral success came in 1981 when he was elected to the Atlanta City Council. While serving on the Atlanta City Council, Lewis was an advocate for ethics in government and neighborhood preservation. He resigned from the Council in 1986 to run for Congress.


Elected to Congress in November 1986, Lewis represents Georgia's Fifth Congressional District. The Congressional District encompasses the entire city of Atlanta, Georgia and parts of Fulton, DeKalb, Clayton and Cobb counties. In 1996, John Lewis was unopposed in his bid for a sixth term and is currently serving his ninth term in office.

In the 108th Congress, Lewis is a member of the influential House Budget Committee and House Ways and Means Committee, where he serves on the Subcommittee on Health. Congressman Lewis serves as Senior Chief Deputy Democratic Whip. As such, he sits in a direct line of succession to the number two Democratic leadership position in the House.

Congressman Lewis also serves on the Democratic Steering Committee. He is also a member of the Congressional Black Caucus and the Congressional Committee to Support Writers and Journalists. Additionally, Congressman Lewis serves as Co-Chair of the Faith and Politics Institute.


Since joining the U.S. Congress, John Lewis has drawn much praise from political observers who have predicted a bright future for him in national politics. In 1990, the National Journal named John Lewis as one of eleven "rising stars in Congress." The Journal stated, "Few House Members ... have had such momentous experiences before coming to Washington that other Members of Congress want to hear about them. John R. Lewis, D-GA., has that cachet and he has made it a plus in his House service." In 1998, Congressional Quarterly named John Lewis a Liberal Stalwart in its edition "50 ways to do the job of Congress."

John Lewis has been profiled in numerous national publications and network television and radio broadcasts, including a profile in a Time Magazine (Dec. 29, 1975) article entitled "Saints Among Us;" and profiles in The New Yorker (Oct. 4, 1993); Parade Magazine (Feb. 4, 1996); and The New Republic (July 1, 1996). John Lewis, with writer Michael D'Orso, authored Walking With The Wind: A Memoir of the Movement (June, 1998). The book is a first-hand account of this nation's civil rights movement.

John Lewis's wife, Lillian, lives in Atlanta, Georgia where she is Director of External Affairs, Office of Research and sponsored Programs at Clark Atlanta University. The Lewis's have one son, John Miles Lewis.
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cigarstore Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 07:37 PM
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27. Of course not!
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SahaleArm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 07:38 PM
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28. Art Torres *nm*
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PSU84 Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-11-03 07:41 PM
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29. Yes.
It's a lousy idea.
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