How many have read a book by Gore Vidal? New Yorker =" NeoCon"

Myra

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Sat Dec-13-03 07:12 PM
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How many have read a book by Gore Vidal? New Yorker =" NeoCon"

I'm reading Dreaming War now.
It's one of his latest.
Published in 2002, after Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace.

Here are his thoughts on the New Yorker:

Louis Menand "writes a sort of cultural column for The New Yorker,
which means he is a neoconservative, since the magazine's
cultural editor would allow no other in a slot once renowned for
its occupancy by Edmund Wilson."

Page 57 of Dreaming for War.

I point this out because the New Yorker just published
some trash talkin' morsel on General Clark.

Why would a NeoCon magazine wanna trash General Clark?

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Myra

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Sat Dec-13-03 07:40 PM
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1. Surprising more people don't read Gore Vidal.

Smart man.

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punpirate

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Sat Dec-13-03 08:04 PM
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2. Well, the New Yorker...

... does have Sy Hersh, having picked him up after the NYT pushed him out. In truth, Hersh's articles are the only thing I read from the New Yorker, so Menand means very little.

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Myra

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Sat Dec-13-03 08:06 PM
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4. Any idea why Hersh was pushed out of the NY Times?

What's his stuff "fit to print"?

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punpirate

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Sat Dec-13-03 09:30 PM
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8. As best as I can figure...

... he clashed with the NYT executive editor, Howell Raines. I remember one article, describing a meeting between Raines, another reporter and Hersh, after he left the Times, in which Hersh said, in introducing Raines to the other reporter, "this is the guy who pushed me out."

Of course, Raines himself is now gone, after the Jason Blair revelations. I doubt, though, that Hersh will be welcomed back with open arms by the Times.

Cheers.

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Cleita

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Sat Dec-13-03 08:05 PM
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3. You should read everything that Gore writes.

He is sooo us.

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Myra

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Sat Dec-13-03 08:56 PM
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5. He's the best. Salon often features his columns.

Guess he doesn't have a lot of readers on DU.
Too bad.

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Josh

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Sat Dec-13-03 09:13 PM
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6. Dreaming War is great, as is Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace

Gore Vidal is a fantastic writer.

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Myra

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Sat Dec-13-03 09:28 PM
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7. I really need to get Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace.

I'm almost done with Dreaming War.
I guess it's his most recent.

He puts flesh on bones.

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billbuckhead

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Sun Dec-14-03 02:33 PM
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9. I've read the American Chronicle novels

They seem to ring true about how things really are behind the scenes.

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Myra

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Sun Dec-14-03 02:48 PM
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10. I learn more from Gore's historical "fiction" than from "history books."

History books which were written, as he puts it, by some "court" reporter on a paycheck from an interested party.
So we end up with commonly accepted lies (Truman dropped two bombs
to end the war w Japan) instead of history (Japan had already surrendered but Truman wanted to scare Stalin, cold war started).

Can only imagine what today's events will look like in tomorrow's
history books. 'Merkins are intentionally kept ignorant of history
and geography so we'll be provincial.

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