"The world would be a better place without me"

Why do suicidal people say that?

The world's shitty enough as it is. One person can't make a difference one way or another. We're all here, forced to live in it. Unless someone chooses suicide. And when someone does choose suicide, someone else just gets that person's job.

Why not? What is wrong with suicide? Surely it's better than being kept forced alive under EXPENSIVE mind-altering drugs by fascist entities, who decide for YOU what is best, while they create and maintain a society which cherishes death over life?

Been there myself. Lucky this year.

Though in retrospect I see your point. I should have waited until Dec. 31st...

Actually, I don't. The world won't turn into the shiny happy Smurf village every time a corporate-sponsored holiday appears on the calendar. We just want it to so we can give ourselves a false sense of security.

We need more posts like this to remind people that we need to work for positive change in this world.

The people who died did so because they are victims of a disgusting society. One that uses "depression" as a convenient catchphrase, with quick cures in the form of drugs. BULL. The stresses of society are what cause people to kill themselves. (that's glib, but sufficient.)

Let's change society to work for the majority of people instead a select few. Not make people take bullshit drugs that only fiddle with symptoms than cure the problems.

that they have no impact whatsoever on the world around them. They think no one notices them. Or that the only thing they can see is their faults, ways that they have impacted the world negatively.

Why are you asking?

:hug:

He died of a stroke, early this morning when he got out of bed. He was a unique individual, very interesting and very non-conformist. To some, he was cranky, but to me, he was fascinating. I loved to hear his opinions on the way of the world, and his thoughts of consciousness after physical death.

He was dealt several tough blows in life, and came back strong from a previous stroke. He was a fighter, and he would never, ever give up on life. He had that trait in common with my father, who passed away two years ago, after a hard battle with cancer.

I admire both of those men so much. I cannot tell you how deeply they would disagree with you concerning suicide. If life is so bad that you cannot live it for yourself, find someone else to live it for. A life lived well is a gift to us all.

I miss those two fine old fellows, and I wish they were still here. Each of us can make a difference. We only have to keep trying until we find where we can best be. Never, ever give up.

And condolences to you on the loss of your father and father-in law.

Hello from Germany,
Whatever you or I might think about that text... Since I first read it, I wanted to attack him personally, but his brilliant style is there. And he was a master in shifting perspectives.
Dirk
The Simplest of Pleasures

Making another person's agony cheap is not becoming to any human being, and certainly not in the season of Good Will To All.

Kanary

...that he'd done all he ever desired and all he wished byond that is to go out on top of his game, Kirillov it was, the ultimate act of free will...Like Bjorn Borgh except dead not retired.

get some psychological help right know. Holidays are really boom seasons for suicides. I have lived long enough to have lost a couple of friends over the holidays to suicide. You don't ever get that life back to try again.

Also, suicide hurts those left behind. One was a doctor who left behind confused patients and a devastated family who had no idea why he did it until they realized it could have been prevented with some therapy and medication.

I think it may be impossible those of us who aren't suicidal to understand what is happening in a suicidal person's mind.

I do know that suicidal people can be helped and urge anyone who's feeling that way to call someone to help. f you have no friends or family to call, call a mental health preofessional or a suicide hot line.

that's why.

I never thought I made any difference to anyone, only to be shocked to find out that some small thing did indeed make some small difference to another human being. Each of us is capable of impacting upon others in positive ways, even though it may only be the smallest of ways. We learn to love each other by these small ways because we come to realize that we are all, after all, human beings.

The dire, gloom and doom predictions that convince a suidical person to kill themself, are fantasy and stinkin thinkin. Ending one's life, indeed, then, does say and confirm that one can never make a difference--they never can if they are dead that is for sure!

One never knows if they are influential or not, if they are in some way important to someone or something,even the smallest of things, even though they may think and feel they are not.

I agree that drugs are expensive-a simple project would be to get involved in trying to change that and if it seems hopeless, do it anyhow and go down fighting-

but then, someone who needs to take those expensive medications is worth a million dollars and much more because they are a human being , even though they may need our help from time to time. We are all, after all, each of us, only human beings. :pals:

And I thought I was cynical!

http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/resources/resources.html

The One Commandment:"Thou shalt not procreate"

The Four Pillars:
suicide · abortion
cannibalism · sodomy

SAVE THE PLANET
KILL YOURSELF

Actually, this is more for the benefit of the Freepers, I expect you're smarter than that.

If nothing else, existing just to piss off republicans is enough for me ;)

Harrad.

Although we are concerned about you we are not qualified to help you. Please call the following number.....
1-800-suicide.


They can give you the counsel you need. I am sorry but I must lock this thread. I am sending positive vibes your way and I hope everything works out ok.


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