Bill Gates is a Liberal Democrat?!

Can anyone verify this?

"Bill Gates is a HUGE liberal, a major supporter of the democrat party, and opponent of George Bush. There's no love lost between those two, let alone collusion. BTW, Steve Jobs is also a HUGE liberal and major supporter of the democrat party. The judicial branch is chock full of liberal judges appointed by democrat presidents; odds are that this judge was appointed by a democrat president. Most sitting judges were. I don't know why the DoJ decided to settle with Microsoft, but it's certainly not the result of political collusion. Microsoft is a corporation solidly in the liberal camp."


http://www.macobserver.com/comments/commentindivdisplay.shtml?id=21050

but I think Jr. & Microsoft are bigger contriubtors to the GOP.

nt

Is Bill Gates a closet liberal?

http://archive.salon.com/21st/feature/1998/01/cov_29feature.html

Gates Sr. supports estate tax

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2003-01-12-gates_x.htm


Bill Gates Is also a Heathen

http://www.celebatheists.com/entries/atheist_13.html#5

A couple of other Heathens :evilgrin:

Linus Torvalds

http://www.celebatheists.com/entries/atheist_36.html#5

Steve Wozniak

http://www.celebatheists.com/entries/atheist_38.html#5

http://www.celebatheists.com/

It'd be chump change.

but he could give MoveOn.org $200 million without bothering anyone.

:)

But is he really all that liberal? I'm not sure that he is.

that are rather modest. You could probably donate as much as Bill Gates could. It wouldn't be chump change for you though.

:)

There are also Republican PACs and the Republican National Committee.

A person can give $25,000 to the Republican National Committee or the Democratic National Committee.

If the person can afford it.

And if I had a choice between donating large sums of money to politics or charity, I would choose charity.

Not to mention you don't know the effects on large corp donations when your party tends to be filled with distrust towards those that accept such donations. Such a gift could end up doing more harm then good.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/politics/contributions/search.pl -- search for "Microsoft" and scroll down to "William H. Gates III"

(Thanks to SahaleArm for the link :hi: )

However, the foundation started by him and his wife does many good things with their buckets of money:

http://www.gatesfoundation.org/default.htm

And, as I always say (since I met her) - his wife is hot.

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...I used to work for a dot-com that was funded by angel investors (filthy, filthy, filthy rich people). Most of them made the max contributions to all candidates, so that they'd be covered in the asking-for-favors department, no matter who won.

however at this point the ONLY donation on record for Gates is Bush/Cheney 2004. I wouldn't be surprised if the Democratic nominee gets some cash from him as well.

That's the way the game is played, and thanks for the ack:).

both keep a low profile on their actual affiliation.


Jr. is very much against Democratic anti-monopoly measures (also Orrin Hatch efforts) to rein in Microsoft.

However, both Jr. and Sr. have made public policy statements about inheritance issues and charitable issues that put them at odds with far right wingers and indicate that the furthest to the right they can be is moderate.

that is just bullshit and a talking point of rightwing ideologues.

gates gives to both parties and donated to bush in 2000.

check out salon's article on gates from a few years ago here:

http://archive.salon.com/21st/feature/1998/01/cov_29feature.html

He just co-hosted a Bush fund raiser in the rich Seattle suberb of Hunt's Point, at the McCaw mansion.
Also co-hosting: Jennifer Dunn, that beloved neocon "liberal Dem."

Microsoft sent email to its employees telling them why this fund
raiser was such a good thing...

And Gates damn well knows that his monopoly would have been broken
up in a Dem administration.

He was on Bill Moyers Now awhile back to talk about his foundation's work in Africa. I believe this is the Bill and Melenda Gates Foundation. Gates senior manages it. Gates and wife decided awhile back to leave only millions to their kids, with the rest going to the foundation. He seemed sincere, but I guess you could be cynical and chalk it up as public relations. Still, he is a businessman, and a believer in private enterprise, and has tended to be somewhat monopolistic in his behavior, don't you think?

He started donating to charity after he was identified as the richest
man in the world a few years back, then criticized for his lack of
charitable donations.

He just threw a huge fund raiser for Bush.
His company is a monopoly; it was about to be broken up via an anti-trust suit...until the 2000 coup stepped in. Lucky him.
But, good PR trumps reality.
In 'Merka anyway.

Transcript: Bill Moyers Interviews Bill Gates, Sr. and Chuck Collins

http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/transcript_inheritance.html

That's why he's so rich. These "captains of industry" are only loyal to their corporate interests. I'm sure he's no fan of he anti-globalization candidates.

I don't believe they make a lot of noise about their political leanings, but they decided to get more involved in politics after they were narrowly rescued from the jaws of justice.

The Gates's are also extraordinary propagandists. Gates Senior has been making a lot of noise about the estate tax, Junion has been blabbering about fighting AIDS - blah, blah, blah.

This isn't philanthropy - it's bribery and propaganda.

If you want to know what the Gates can do for the world, just look at Seattle and the Seattle School District. There are thousands of Microsoft millionaires in Seattle, but the average citizens is worse off for Microsoft, and the school district gets worse every year.

I started a thread about Gates just a few days ago, comparing him to other famous super-rich people, notably the Carnegies and the Rockefellers. The latter left an astounding legacy - libraries, imposing buildings, great institutions, political involvement, etc. I'm not saying they were all good, but they did "great" things, at least some of which appear to be good.

Compare that to Bill Gates. He said he was going to give away his entire fortune - or most of it - several years ago, yet he's still the richest jerk in the world. Must be using fuzzy math.

And if Bill Gates died today, what insitutions would he leave behind? Schools burdened with Microshaft computers, buildings named for Mary Gates, an AIDS battle that scarcely got off the ground, millions of ripped off consumers and some gaping holes in our national security.

Don't be fooled by Gates' propaganda - he's a pig.

for Bill Gates.

"He just co-hosted a Bush fund raiser in the rich Seattle suberb of Hunt's Point, at the McCaw mansion. Also co-hosting: Jennifer Dunn, that beloved neocon "liberal Dem.""

Thanks for reminding me! Billionaire Craig McCaw was promoting the late Seattle Schools Superintendent John Stanford for a position as U.S. Secretary of Education. Stanford was being courted by the Democrats, but I'm convinced George Bush would have appointed him, also, if he had survived. He's a retired general and African American who works for whitey - and he was publicly supported by Colin Powell.

Do a search for "Microsoft" + "blackmailed more than 500 school districts." That article blew me away. It appears that Bill is attacking public schools, while Micrshaft co-founder Paul Allen is going after the charter school movement. Allen bankrolled Washington State's last charter school initiative.

Also, if you do more research, I think you'll discover some really frightening right-wing operatives working for Microsoft. I can't think of their names offhand, but one guy has been compared to a Nazi and is a very wealthy Republican supporter. I think John Hamer - a really sleazy right-wing propagandist associated with the Seattle Times and Seattle Weekly - works for Microsoft.

But I'm sure Bill Gates is in bed with plenty of liberal pigs, too. He recruited his spokesman, Trevor Neilson, from America's most corrupt teachers union, the Washington Education Association.

Research Bill Gates' bizarre K-12 Leadership Institute - if it still exists. Like most of his philanthropic projects, it has probably already faded away.

For those who don't live in the area,
The Seattle Times and Seattle Weekly are extremely
right wing; the Seattle PI is mostly right wing
(but has some good reporters like Joel Conason);
The Stranger is good.

IMO.
(You agree about The Stranger JB?)

media straight! I was The Seattle Weekly's biggest fan until they stabbed me in the back when I first ran for public office in 1999. The crap they printed during that campaign - in several issues - was unbelievably sleazy. I took a closer look and began to get a handle on their propaganda.

Unfortunately, I think The Stranger is corrupt, too - though not as obvious. I think the quickest way to get a handle on a newspaper is to check their campaign endorsements. Alternative papers - like the Weekly and the Stranger - have to print some good stuff, or no one would read, let alone believe, them. But they lower the boom during elections.

Sadly, even checking endorsements is tricky because there are so few good candidates, the media have no choice but to endorse derelicts - or endorse no one at all.

Check The Stranger's archives for these names:

Doug Schafer
David Blomstrom

Doug Schafer (Schaefer?) is an attorney who risked his career to bring down a corrupt "Cadillac Judge," then ran for public office - twice. I don't believe The Seattle Weekly or The Stranger even MENTIONED him during his first campaign. I publicized their overwight on my website, and the Seattle Weekly mentioned him during his second campaign - but it was the most bizarre snub I've ever seen. You can find his name in the Weekly's archives, and you'll see what I mean. (I think they said they applauded his efforts to reform the State Supreme Court, "but running for office is an awfully strange way to do it." HUH???

I'm David Blomstrom. The Stranger scarcely knows I exist. In fairness, they did ask to interview me during my last campaign, but I told them to shove it. Their columnist Dan Savage hosted a really bizarre political forum at the Universitiy of Washington that featured a stripper. I think it was designed partly to degrade politics - to send out the message that it has become so sleazy that people should just stay home and don't bother voting.

as the rest of the Seattle media. Also Joel Connelly is probably the best political writer in the Seattle media.

... but I could be wrong.

From what I recall, though, Gates didn't really start giving much to charity until 1997 when Ted Turner donated a billion dollars to the UN and berated other billionaires for not giving enough to charity.

So, Gates, not to be outdone, within 2 years' time, topped all the lists for charitable giving.

I thought I read somewhere a long time ago that he leaned libertarian in terms of politics. I know his favorite rag is The Economist.

Found this article from 2002 where

"he (Turner) compared President Bush to Roman emperor Julius Caesar, and said America missed out by not electing Democrat Al Gore.

"A few more votes in Florida, and we could have had the best environmental president (Al Gore) we ever had. Now, we've got an oil man. He (President Bush) is another Julius Caesar. Just what we need," said Turner."

The article also said that: "In recent years, Turner has become famous for frequently belitting Christians, and once said that America has "some of the dumbest people in the world."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/2/13/74521.shtml

Since George Soros stated his intentions of donating funds to organizations like Moveon I was wondering which other billionaires may also ber counted on to support the Democrats.

Ted Turner Is also an Atheist :evilgrin:

http://www.celebatheists.com/entries/atheist_36.html#6

I NEED to point something out to you in your first sentence:

"Bill Gates is a HUGE liberal, a major supporter of the democrat party, and opponent of George Bush.

The proper name is DemocratIC Party. The way you used it is what the freepers and repugs say as a put down. PLEASE take note and be more careful in the future.

on edit: I should have read first, I'll never learn. It was a direct quote from the link, my humble apologies.

Seeing "Bill Gates" and "liberal" in the same sentence would drive
anyone 'round the bend.

He's corporate evil at its filthiest.
In spite of his PR/charity blood money to countries that
corporations help inpoverish in the first place.

It's our fault. By now, McAulliffe should have changed the damn name, now that it's clear the right is using it as an epithet.

I would like to see some huge money going to the party in the name of appreciation of the Dem economy that has made him a very rich cat.

It's amazing how many liberals DON'T GET IT. Even more depressing is the Linux community - the folks who are challenging Microsoft in the market place. They know far more about Bill Gates' dirty tricks and crappy software than most people do, and they ought to know what a menace he is to our country.

Yet they're just as apathetic as the general public. Most are just looking for a better operating system and could care less about politics.

I contacted every Linux group in the nation a few months ago, searching for allies. Only a few replied. A few wished me luck, and an equal number or greater blasted me for being so negative.

One guy turned out to be the head of some local Republican group! He filed a spam complaint with my ISP, then wrote something nasty about me on his website.

What a bunch of losers.

http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104_2-5101690.html

Matthew Szulik, chief executive of Linux vendor Red Hat, said on Monday that although Linux is capable of exceeding expectations for corporate users, home users should stick with Windows: "I would say that for the consumer market place, Windows probably continues to be the right product line," he said. "I would argue that from the device-driver standpoint and perhaps some of the other traditional functionality, for that classic consumer purchaser, it is my view that (Linux) technology needs to mature a little bit more."

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Albert Einstein once said insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Desktop Linux is insane. It's not working, nor will it ever work if the Linux community stays insane. Stop being so elitist, stop telling people to RTFM when they don't know how to do this or that. But most of all, stop thinking your way is better than that guy's way, and instead collaborate and create ONE product to fight the Microsoft behemoth. You've already shown that on the server side Linux is clearly superior than Windows, but damn, how many window managers does the world need? Until then, you're a bunch of chickens running around with your heads cut off, talented and gifted yes, but with no single driving force.

Democrat...who walks/talks like a neocon.

:evilgrin:

Poor Gates, trashed on DU, can't catch a break...

Name: William Gates
Redmond WA

Type: Individual
Date: Wednesday, September 03, 2003
Aggregate YTD: $2,000.00
Amount: $2,000.00
Employer: Microsoft Corp.
Occupation: C.E.O
Note:

http://www.georgewbush.com/Donors/donordetail.aspx?id=200364

He's always been an enlightened thinker. He's a brilliant man who has moved the entire world forward significantly.

People--like so many liberals--who hate him for his success haven't been paying attention to his deeds. He's given tens of billions to the world-wide Aids control efforts, to public school systems all across America, to a huge number of really significant causes.

Was he pissed because the Clinton admin painted him as a demon? You bet he was. But that doesn't change the man's basically decent, humanitarian character.

they would be hostile to the DOJ suit. If I remember correctly, Microsoft stock went on a ride following the 2000 non-election, because people knew a Bush DOJ would make nice with Microsoft. And so it did.

What Gates' personal politics are, I have no idea, but I'm pretty sure his support of Bush in 2000 was about business more than pure politics.