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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:01 AM
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Saddam was willing to surrender without a war remember?
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 09:02 AM by Mountainman
What was the story about Saddam trying to make a deal before the war started. A good point may be made that it didn't take 451+ American deaths and thousands of Iraqi deaths to capture Saddam.

What the chimpster will say is that this war was about capturing Saddam when in reality it is a war of imperialism and American children will still be required to give their lives in support of right wing wars.

If this war was about Saddam then bring the troops home now! If not than we need to show that the war is not about Saddam.
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impeach the gop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:04 AM
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1. That would have kept the Cowardly AWOL bush regime
from his "photo oops" er I mean opps :-)
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dpibel Donating Member (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:07 AM
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2. Stop making sense
Who said Saddam was trying desperately to surrender? Huh? I bet you read that, or something. Did our Beloved Fierce Warrior Chieftain say that? No?? Well then it's not true.

It was about capturing Saddam. It was always about capturing Saddam.

Brother, 2 + 2 = 5. Come on. You can say it.
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moosedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:13 AM
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4. There is justice !
Let us hope and pray that all the evil doers like him get the same justice. All abusers of power and money should get to live in a hell hole like the one they are showing us that the Saddam thing lived in. We should all be afraid to be evil like that. This is a good lesson for all mankind on this planet.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:11 AM
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3. Yes- you've reminded me
The memory hole, eh?
About 5-6 weeks ago there was a story in the news for a day about a surrender in lieu of invasion that was kept secret by the PNAC operatives. Perle or Wolfowitz where the ones to deny it, right?

This is important, thanks.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:21 AM
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5. Thank you for your post.
ITA with your point that this will be a test of the purpose of this war.

It made me ill to hear Sanchez declare he had been taken "without a shot" when so many have died (455 per CNN casualties list) and thousands of others are maimed to get him. I'm sure we'll hear plenty of freeper comments minimizing it as though it is no big deal.

All of those little children, waiting for daddy (or mommy) to come home are going to think they'll be on their way and home for Christmas, when nothing could be further from the truth.

I'm glad the ruthless dictator is gone. And I'm glad it is now and not October of next year.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:22 AM
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6. You are exactly
right. The media will have a heyday with this. I don't think we heard from the media much about Sadamm willing to give himself up before the war. Unless I am mistaken the media are now our major enemy, if not before.
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zubeneshamali Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:20 AM
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7. Uh, No.
US gave Hussein family 48 hours to surrender before the first bombs fell.

Instead of surrendering they mouthed off somthing like Bush's family needing to leave Crawford.

Now 2 are dead and one has a head full of lice.

They were given the opportunity to surrender but they scoffed and the rest is history.
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:35 AM
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8. Bush was given the opportunity to not invade Iraq
Instead the Bush administration scoffed, now 450 American men and women are dead and history is still being made.

A huge good thing about the way Saddam was taken is that he didn't put up a fight, didn't commit suicide, and seems to be cooperating with his captors. This will drive a stake in the heart of most of the hard core resistence by his supporters. After all, he didn't even put up the fight the Uday and Qusay did. Thus, he is shamed before his supporters.

But it ain't over yet. Just heard that Musharaff just missed being involved in an explosion.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:49 AM
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9. you are wrong......
chimpass* is the one who scoffed at saddam's last effort to avoid war. You see the aWol chimpass* wanted war and the aWol chimpass* always gets his way.....
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:12 AM
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11. Charming. More revisionist history? n/t
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:26 AM
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12. Um, no, correction
450-some dead soldiers, countless thousands (tens of thousands?) dead innocent Iraqis, a quarter of a trillion American taxpayer dollars.

"Two dead.."?? Um, no.

Julie
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:12 AM
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10. Yes But the US, UK and Israel demanded war
This is an issue we must keep front and center.

Did anyone save the links?
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