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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:16 AM
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An interesting view on the impact of Saddam's capture
From Steve Gilliard on his news blog:

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Iraqis can now say, with clear logic: you got Saddam, hell, you made him, now go. We no longer need you here. Thanks for the work, now go home. I don't think Viceroy Jerry quite gets that yet. The majority of the people killing Americans, would, if given the opportunity, would kill Saddam with their bare hands. They weren't setting IED's for Saddam yesterday, and they won't set them for him tomorrow. We are way, way past Saddam here. We have started blood feuds with the Sunni tribes, after killing their children, jailing their men, humiliating their women. The trigger happy ways of the 82nd ABN and the West Bank tactics of the 4 ID have made few friends and many, many enemies. The idea that the people of Samarra and Fallujah, places where Saddam's hand was heavy, fight for his return, is ludicrous. They fight Americans because we occupy their country. That is a central truth which eludes the generals, the politicians and the White House.

Like with the last stand of Uday and Qusay, the Iraqis were happy at the outcome, but the resistance only grew exponentially afterwards.

The capture of Saddam may end the war, may cause people to cease resistance, but I doubt it. I hope I'm wrong, but given the fact that they found Saddam in a freaking hole, I think we can say he's spent the last few months on the run and not running anything. All of the problems Iraq had yesterday, they have today. The issue of who runs the country remains. The Americans are swearing that his capture means he can't come back. Which is good. But, does that bring back the dead killed by American bullets? If it doesn't, the people who resist Americans still have a reason to, no matter how much we'd pretend it doesn't.

Link: http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/
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san antonio Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:19 AM
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1. We aint going anywhere.
We're still in Japan and Germany to this day. Do you really think we're leaving Iraq any time soon?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:37 AM
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6. Right. We've got to stay and rebuild Iraq as well as we have Afghanistan.
:eyes:

There's still plenty of money to be made(by the war profiteers like Halliburton) before we have to tidy things up for the US elections, or before we move on to the next country on the PNAC's agenda.
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onebigbadwulf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:23 AM
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2. How will we steal their oil if we leave?
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:25 AM
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3. Now those who want the power in Iraq need not fear Saddam
Remember we were told that the capture/death of Uday and Qusay would also lessen the resistance. It increased. With the capture of Saddam, let's see if those who want to control Iraq begin their real campaign to achieve their desires.

I hope they let him talk about his prior relationship with the U.S. government, but that's unrealistic.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:29 AM
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4. This is unfortunately possible
It is possible that the resistance might not have as much money or munitions to pursue their work, but I doubt such work will cease. What will be interesting is if a real alternative to Saddam is now allowed to spring up. A true nationalist leader. But the most likely scenario is that said leader would be an islamic fundementalist, so I'm not sure we'd walk if that happened.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:32 AM
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5. Yes, but they need at least a symbolic victory
just like how the globalized economy is not a measure of the health of the US, they need to present it in a good light to pump up propaganda efforts for campaign purposes.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 09:38 AM
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7. Yeah, the thugs must be really desperate.
Do most of you actually think the carnage will stop in Iraq? Don't be naive. It will not.

SH was torturing his people for years...but hell, we didn't care. He was our "friend."

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jonoboy Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 10:10 AM
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8. all that will happen is all the other Saddams are now free to rise
and start flexing their muscles. The only person that has come out of this looking ok is the war criminal Blair who was restrained and resisted the desire to gloat..unlike the Bush admin who will be gloating along with Fox..but more US soldiers will begin dying..and that IS the sad truth
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