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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:24 AM
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Dean's statement from July is still true.....we went to war on lies.
That has been his platform all along. I do NOT understand why people here today are implying now that his stance is no longer relevant.
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Dean's July speech.
Mr. President, beyond the NSC and CIA officials who have been identified, we need to know who else at the White House was involved in the decision to include the discredited uranium evidence in your speech, and, if they knew it was false, why did they permit it to be included in the speech.

Mr. President, we need to know why anyone in your Administration would have contemplated using the evidence in the State of the Union after George Tenet personally intervened in October 2002 to have the same evidence removed from the President's October 7th speech. (The Washington Post, Walter Pincus and Mike Allen, 7/13/2003)

Mr. President, we need to know why you claimed this very week that the CIA objected to the Niger uranium sentence "subsequent" to the State of the Union address, contradicting everything else we have heard from your Administration and the intelligence community on the matter. (The Washington Post, Priest, Dana and Dana Milbank, 7/15/2003)

Mr. President, we urgently need an explanation about the very serious charge that senior officials in your Administration may have retaliated against Ambassador Joseph Wilson by illegally disclosing that his wife is an undercover CIA officer. (The Nation, Corn, David, 7/16/2003)

Mr. President, we need to know why your Administration persisted in using the intercepted aluminum tubes to show that Iraq was pursuing a nuclear program and why your National Security Advisor, Condoleezza Rice, claimed categorically that the tubes were "only really suited for nuclear weapons programs," when in fact our own government experts flatly rejected such claims. (CNN, 9/08/2002, Knight Ridder News Service, 10/04/2002)

Mr. President, we need to know why Secretary Rumsfeld created a secret intelligence unit at the Pentagon that selectively identified questionable intelligence to support the case for war 'including the supposed link to al-Qaeda' while ignoring, burying or rejecting any evidence to the contrary. (New Yorker, Seymour Hersh, 5/12/03)

Mr. President, we need to know what the basis was for Secretary Rumsfeld's assertion that the US had bulletproof evidence linking al-Qaeda to Iraq, despite the fact that U.S. intelligence analysts have consistently agreed that Saddam did not have a "meaningful connection" to al-Qaeda. (NY Times, Schmitt, Eric, 9/28/2002, NY Times, Krugman, Paul, 7/15/2003)

Mr. President, we need to know why Vice President Cheney claimed last September to have "irrefutable evidence" that Saddam Hussein had reconstituted his nuclear weapons program, an assertion he repeated in March, on the eve of war. (AP, 9/20/2002, NBC 3/16/2003)

Mr. President, we need to know why Secretary Powell claimed with confidence and virtual certainty in February before the UN Security Council that, "Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent. That is enough agent to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets." (UN Address, 2/05/2003)

Mr. President, we need to know why Secretary Rumsfeld claimed on March 30th in reference to weapons of mass destruction, "We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat." (The Guardian, Whitaker, Brian and Rory McCarthy, 5/30/2003)

Mr. President, we need an explanation of the unconfirmed report that your Administration is dishonoring the life of a soldier who died in Iraq as a result of hostile action by misclassifying his death as an accident. (Time, Gibbs, Nancy and Mark Thompson, 7/13/2003)

Mr. President, we need to know why your Administration has never told the truth about the costs and long-term commitment of the war, has consistently downplayed what those costs would be, and now continues to try to keep the projected costs hidden from the American people.

Mr. President, we need to know why you said on May 1, 2003 that the war was over, when US troops have fought and one or two have died nearly every day since then and your generals have admitted that we are fighting a guerrilla war in Iraq. (Abizaid, Gen. John, 7/16/2003)

Mr. President, we need to know why your Administration had no plan to build the peace in post-war Iraq and seems to be resisting calls to include NATO, the United Nations and our allies in the stabilization and reconstruction effort.

Mr. President, we need to know what you were referring to in Poland on May 30, 2003, when you said, "For those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong. We found them." (The Washington Post, Allen, Mike, 5/31/2003)

Mr. President, we need to know why you incorrectly claimed this very week that the war began because Iraq would not admit UN inspectors, when in fact Iraq had admitted the inspectors and you opposed extending their work. (The Washington Post, Priest, Dana and Dana Milbank, 7/15/2003)

If you can't or won't answer these 16 questions, Mr. President, I call on the Republicans in Congress to stop blocking efforts to create an independent, bipartisan committee to investigate what is a matter of the highest importance: whether your decision to go to war was sound and just.

The American public deserves answers to all of these questions. I urge you to lead with the honor and integrity that you promised as a candidate.

http://www.deanforamerica.com/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=7000&news_iv_ctrl=1441











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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:33 AM
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1. Kick from page 2 in 7 minutes.
I just want to know why all this has changed.
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:34 AM
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2. Tim Russert Hysterical with Happiness
I thought russert was going to poop his pants in excitement. He was so happy and glad to have an oportunity to critisize Gov. Dean. He and old Liberman had a field day throwing off on Gov. Dean.

When liberman left and russert had other guests, they would talk about something else for awhile and he would bring the conversation back to Gov. Dean. You could see the other guest getting irritated because everytime they tried to talk about other subjects or sadddam, russert would start harping about Gov. Dean. This was the most un-professional display i have ever seen from russert
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:36 AM
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3. I had to turn the TV off.
I am stunned at this forum this morning, as so many here are so excited about this hurting Dean. That does not even make sense.
Lies are still lies.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:40 AM
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4. It goes to show you why Dean is the guy "they fear".....and all the
threads on here criticizing Dean...it makes you wonder about ABB. I guess when you have "an outsider"...big $$$$ does not want it..


They want somebody they can control.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:42 AM
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5. Front page MSNBC..."This could hurt Dean"
Yep, there you are.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 11:53 AM
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6. I will keep kicking this since no one seems to care.
The truth is still the truth.
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ozone_man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:05 PM
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7. It's a mini-flash back to the Iraq war hysteria of March/April.
This will wear off much quicker, especially if the attacks continue. The gullible and weak minded are sucked in by the media hype.

March and April were not fun times to be against the war, having Dean against the war, and facing the RW media every day. Stick to your principles, and I expect Dean to stick to his.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:19 PM
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8. I agree with you. He has weathered a lot. Truth wears well.
:hi:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:42 PM
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14. I'm going to stick by Dean all the way!
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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:24 PM
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9. Damn right...OK, where are the WMD?? Huh??
Bush and his Nazi's better keep SH and his pie hole shut. He might really spill the beans about no WMD and how Bush knew that all along.

This capture is fine with me,the ball in now squarly in Chimpboys court. This is "mission accomplished" X2. So...when do the troops start coming home? Huh,we STILL have to stay in Iraq???

Well of course,Halliburton has just begun to make BILLIONS off this cake walk called Iraq. Chimpboy and Oil Dick are probably a little pissed that SH was pulled out of that hole at such an early date.

THIS CHANGES NOTHING!! Bush is still VERY beatable next fall. Ummm...remember 1992??

David
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:10 PM
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12. Our candidates need to stand together now on the lies or we all lose.
You are right...they needed Halliburton off the front page. I am so tired of lies.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:36 PM
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10. Absolutely right. It was still all lies. It is still an illegal war.
It is still an immoral war. They will make it seem glorious. To get Saddam was a false reason for the war. I don't think this will last any longer than the fake turkey episode because they can't risk allowing him to speak. They have probably been squirreling him away since the big US pay-off of Iraqi troops during the battle for baghdad.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:45 PM
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11. this admin is one PR stunt after another = propaganda
this is "good"...but everyone still needs to be afraid!

Enough of this BS admin of fear and terra.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:22 PM
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13. kick
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:54 PM
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15. Thanks for kicking for the truth.
:hi:
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:57 PM
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17. no problem!
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:56 PM
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16. kick
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