It's over.

Now that they have Saddam, Bush's approval ratings are going up, and they will not go back down again. Now we will have to deal with him for 4 more years.

They don't have Osama.

Bush's ratings will naturally bump up for a little while and then they will go back down.

There will be more joblessness, homelessness and other social problems.


One Saddam does not an election make.



Clark/Edwards in 2004

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Dean's candidacy was NEVER predicated on his own CHARACTER AS A LEADER. It was dependent on ranting about a bad economy and and bad war.

The issues is not Saddam. It is AWOL Bush's increasing statue
as Commander-In-Chief. And DEAN'S lack of the credentials needed to
stick it to him. Of all the major candidates, the "Mayor of Vermont" has the weakest qualification on domestic foreign policy.


Why do you think Hillary is playing the "Hawk."
Do you think that's really the way she feels? The environment is so changed from before 9/11 that "draft-dodge" Bill says he would have voted for the IWR and is apparently supporting a "GENERAL" for the White House.

If we are putting up a PHONY CANDIDATE against the PHONY IN THE WHITEHOUSE, as surely as the sun will rise, the Dems will loose. The campaign is going to be two phonies using tons of their supporter's money to throw dirt against one another. A REAL LOSE/LOSE for progressives.

AGAIN. I AM ASKING FOR THOUGHTFULL ARGUEMENT FROM YOU DEAN SUPPORTERS, NOT JUST BLUSTER AND ARROGANCE.

I get enough of plugged-ear ranting in my kitchen.

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you didn't waste too much time here. Maybe we'll see you again in 2008.

Now we can bring the troops back and stop spending billions in Iraq, killing innocent Iraqi's! That's what's over. The election is still months away, issues that will be important may not have even come up yet. The American public only remembers what happened 4 months back, so in some ways Saddam will be forgotten by the time the gen. elect. rolls around.

until we get our troops out and Iraq is self-governing.

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Yes, the rubes will gloat and think that the world is safer and bush is an honest man of integrity. But terror attacks and killings and maimings of american troops will continue because hussein had nothing to do with terrorism. And then the rubes will scratch their little heads and breath out and wonder! And more corruption from halliburton is just around the corner, and one pissed off ambassador wilson will raise holy hell at the appropriate time about the outing of his cia wife because some in bush's white house committed a federal crime. When the hatemongers in the white house have time to sit back and reflect, today will not be sighted as a good one for them.

There are still 11 months

We will still lose troops - remember, Sadaam is not in charge. Hasn't been since he fled. Arabic culture looks very disaprovingly upon those who flee in cowardice - that's why the Republican Guard crumbled. They went to go find another leader.

In 11 months, the American people will want more than ever to find someone who will stop the quagmire.

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go figure

...when Iraqis don't magically trade AK-47s and land mines for flowers and Gamecubes.

This isn't over, not by a longshot.

but a lot depends on what happens to the insurgency. If it collapses, this is huge fr Bush. If not, that's another matter.

if they go up we'll hear about it on every CNN,MSNBC,Fox show.When they go down curiously we never see them cited.

That was said, tongue in cheek, right?

Nothing has changed except Saddam is captured, which
is what Americans expected to happen...dead or alive
and now we can see him put on trial like Slobo was
which is a good thing. But it doesn't change the fact
that Americans didn't want to pre-emptively invade
a country not on the "terrorist" list given fuzzy
reasons by the Bushites. We the taxpayers are spending
billions of dollars on Halliburton et al to purge this
nation of its resources among other reasons.

Helping the Iraqis rebuild their country is our
obligation now, but not exclusively with taxpayer
monies and exclusively to Halliburton et al.
Finding Saddam is a good thing, but it doesn't change
any of the work that needs doing.

Gads, he looked horrible...he may be looking forward
to a cleaner facility....

is Bush's war-time president bullshit. Now, as our fancy turns to thoughts of jobs and health care, I wonder how he'll fare, hmmm?

and they'll shoot themselves in both feet.

What is the chimp going to say to the American people when they start asking why Saddam isn't being prosecuted for 9/11? What is he going to say when they ask why Americans continue to be killed and maimed in Iraq if Saddam is gone?
What is he going to say when Americans continue to be the target of terrorists around the world?

Saddam was a convenient bogeyman, but his capture probably creates more problems for the chimp than it solves. Look for him to be offed in jail - and soon.

Something tells me they are lying. Saddam has many lookalikes. They could have used one of them.

It's going to take a hell of a lot more than capturing a field mouse to make that inarticulate frat boy's ratings go up.

You don't see any approval ratings going up here do you?

Strange... This type of reasoning is normally not seen on these boards...

I sdmell a Rove or Clark operation here. There are just too many of these threads for it to be honest poster opinion.

Anyone listening to CSpan knows that the opinions are just as divided as ever.

Ouch here's Bush....

together...and that is Dennis Kucinich.

Dean is a moderate and will turn many people off(myself included) to voting for him...

if you wanna see Bush gone...you gotta offer the people of America a change.

Only Kucinich is challenging the status quo on many issues....he can turn out the vote because he rocks the boat.

... just remember Walter from The Big Lebowski.

Nothing is over. It's just going to involve some slight modifications.

We have yet to capture Bin Laden.

That's the first analogy that springs to mind when I think of the international situation, particularly as it concerns various hot spots and security concerns. "I thought you said she was dead!" Dorothy says to Glinda when the Wicked Witch of the West appears to check out the damage inflicted on her sister.


Saddam's capture may make for good television and GOP spin, but it doesn't ensure security for anyone, including the Iraqis. Even Bush admitted as much in his remarks today.

And Iraq was never the issue when it came to 9/11 and other matters. We still also have to deal with the Middle East in general, particularly the Israeli-Palestinian issue.

Besides, people have short attention spans, and anything could happen.