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deminflorida Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:01 PM
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Iowa will become a very close race now....
N.H. maybe a Dean win, still hands down, ...but Iowa may be a lost cause for the Dean effort towards the nomination.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:04 PM
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1. Not Likely
So Saddam is captured and all of a sudden Democratic voters in Iowa scratch their heads and say, hmmmm, screw Dean. I want a military leader.

I missed the quantum leap in reasoning that got you to this conclusion.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:04 PM
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2. and why would that be? n/t
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:04 PM
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3. I disagree about N.H.
Clark will probably take Iowa. Kerry has a good chance in N.H.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:21 PM
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6. Clark, Iowa?
Walt, I'll give you ten to one odds. I thought you were paying attention a little more than that. You know that Clark's currently at 4% in Iowa to Dean's 26, Gephardt's 22, Kerry's 9, and Edwards' 5, right?
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:24 PM
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7. Clark in Iowa?
ummmm.... did you open your xmas present from Pruner early?
Gephardt in Iowa, maybe... but Clark?
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:27 PM
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9. Clark will take Iowa ???
How can you say that? He has no organization here, no staff, and is spending no money. Polls put him at the Al Sharpton level. He could flood money into a primary state at the last moment and have a chance, but a caucus state...NO.


He'll come in 6th behind Kucinich with maybe 1% or 2%.

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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:14 PM
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4. It amazes me that so many think that Dean
is a one trick pony. His stance on the war is only one facet of his campaign. And what was Clark's stance on the war? He was for it and against it. At least he covered all the bases.
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:28 PM
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10. He may also have been neutral.......
during the transition period.
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WhosNext Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:15 PM
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5. I can only hope.
Iowa could be the crossroads to winning or losing in 2004.
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Mass_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:26 PM
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8. maybe?
even if you don't put much stock in polls its clear Dean is going to win in N.H, he's got 2 NH powerhouse unions, more people on the ground than Kerry, more money, and more momentum. He will win. in Iowa, not much will change for the democratic primaries. For the genl. election it could change. But Gephardt did the whole miserable failure thing, so he was criticizing the war plenty.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:35 PM
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11. Why? Because we're transitioning to an occupation
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 12:37 PM by Tinoire
& Clark knows the occupation plan like the back of his hand because he worked on it?

I'm not a Dean supporter but I totally fail to see why this would affect him at all.

The issues most people care about are still health care, still education, still job security, still social security. Most people could give 2 flying hoots about an occupation or terror. After all, most Americans will believe that we just captured the master-mind of world terror and the bogeyman who brought down the WTC. It is actually the popularity of the those who are harping on the terror threat and national security that just went down.

If anything, this is good news for Dean and any other anti-war Dem because Bush parading the picture of Sadaam Hussein captured cowering in a cave will prompt questions such as

450 US dead for that?
Hundreds of coalition dead for that?
OVER A MILLION of Iraqi dead for that?
14 years of war and devastation to capture a field mouse?

Meanwhile Americans still don't have health-care. Meanwhile homes are still being foreclosed. Meanwhile our schools still suck. And the country is bankrupt.
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