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dolgoruky Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 12:59 PM
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US captures Ex powerful man with beard in hole in the ground
I'm amazed that anyone is actually remotely excited that Saddam has been caught. If they'd discovered him in a jacuzzi with two young nymphettes while listening to Limp Bizkit, then THAT would have been news. As it stands, it a story that's as flaccid as George Dubya's knob.

I'm sure the more simple minded folk in this forum will cheer, just as they cheered when Baghdad "fell". Well, it's up to them. The only people I would imagine are happy is the media. It saves them a lot of time and effort, that they'll be able to put to better use, like Christmas shopping. All they'll be doing in the next few days is cut and pasting government propaganda.

In short, before you cheer, remember, 50,000 innocent people died to get that oil... I mean that evil dictator Saddam!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:00 PM
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1. LOL!
"it's a story that's as flaccid as George Dubya's knob."
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virtualobserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:04 PM
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3. It will just be a new marker for the media
now they can report how many soldiers have died "since we caught Saddam" in their upcoming broadcasts.
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:03 PM
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2. Anyone who is not excited
is in my judgement insane.

Put away the political implications for half a second.

Think about the capture of a mass murderer.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:07 PM
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4. a mass murderer
we propped up for years while it was convenient to our foreign policy to do so.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:08 PM
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6. Yeah so?
Chile had one and I would have chopped off my left ear to see his bitch ass in chains.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:13 PM
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8. whatever floats your boat.
I just don't think that Saddam's capture represents any kind of huge human rights victory. You think we're not doing the exact same thing we did with him and with Pinochet right now in other countries?

So Saddam Hussein is in custody. Fine, the man's a murderous thug and should be put on trial. Beyond that, I'll keep the cork in the bubbly until we actually see something a little more meaningful, both in the ME and in US foreign policy.
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Union Thug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:45 PM
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20. Big Deal...
So the sock puppet of the corporate elite as been consumed by the same corporate elite that helped enable him to commit atrocities. BFD!It's as if I'm supposed to be thrilled that Sammy the Bull turned on Gotti and then was protected by tax payer money, in spite of his own complicity in carrying out hits... Wow, I'm just bloody thrilled.

It's all a stinking pile of BS.
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:14 PM
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9. That's right
We may disagree on evolution, but we agree on what is important.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:26 PM
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12. lol that's where I saw that name!
You damn science nazi. lol :D

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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:43 PM
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21. LOL - the US helped put Pinochet in power
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:13 PM
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7. So f@ck!ng what?
Why should I be any less happy because of the past (and present) idiocy of my government?

You are certainly aware how this guy had heads put on pikes in front of Baghdad drug stores during his reign.

Seperate the issue of his capture from the issue of the mistakes that led to it.

I truly cannot comprehend how any rational person who thinks highly of human rights should not be overjoyed at this news.

Their certainly may be other news not to be overjoyed at, if, for example he is not tried at the hague, but those are all seperate issues.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:20 PM
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10. had he not become inconvenient to the State Department
he'd still be there. This is not some titanic victory for human rights, I'm sorry. I'll save the delerium for such a time as the Iraqis have self-determination and we stop fucking with the people of other nations for our own gain.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:30 PM
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13. Then thank goodness he became a inconvenience
I will be happy when the UN steps up and stops allowing mass murder.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:36 PM
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17. yes, thank goodness
that we at least have human rights advances as occasional by-products of a short-sighted foreign policy that caused the human rights abuses in the first place.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:07 PM
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5. They have sold their souls to politics
No longer even able to cheer the capture of those who are the opposite of all they represent.

It makes you wonder if many here actually believe in anything or if they exist only to battle the GOP for the sake of it.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:32 PM
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14. Gee, are ya gonna go get his accomplices?
George H W Bush
Ronald Reagan
Donald Rumsfeld

They sold him the crap he used to kill people with and paid for his war with Iran, who we were pissed off at at the time.


How bizarre some newbies here are.

will you cheer about the former american leaders are captured?
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:47 PM
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22. George W Bush is a mass murderer, as is Wesley Clark
Think about the capture of a mass murderer.

George W Bush is a mass murderer, as is Wesley Clark. both are responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:22 PM
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11. please don't let me read posts like this
when I have a mouthful of wine. That was nearly a ruined monitor! LOL!
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dani Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:34 PM
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15. huge news
Well, it is good news. But they'll (the corporate media, that is) conveniently forget to mention that no WMDs have been found and no Osama bin Ladens have been found. They might mention what a murderous tyrant Saddam was, but they'll conveniently fail to mention that the Reagan and Bush 1 administrations supplied Saddam with weapons, money, and intel support while he was engaging in massive destruction of human rights and human lives, and they (Bush, Reagan) knew exactly what evil was coming of it all. Now that would be news.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:34 PM
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16. Who had a military that would not fight for him....
and who had WMDs that he did not have.
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:39 PM
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18. Yes, it's puzzling
Since bushsucks* declared him "non relevant" (after his capture was not imminent). Of course, he is a bad man and deserves to be caught and tried for any crimes he comitted.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:44 PM
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19. Simple minded?
Shove it. Saddam deserved to be bag. Nice condescension, btw.
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