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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:09 PM
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The Neocons are gloating about DUs attitude and think 2004 is theirs
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 01:11 PM by Norbert
The originator of this post on a message board I lurk on has a history of being all shrill and no brains. Nevertheless he is using all of this to his agenda's advantage.

http://www.indystar.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49501

Look at the big picture people. Saddam is caught = good, Boy George gets a boost in approval rating = bad but probably short term, Iraq remains a mess = which is why it will be short term.

Bu$h is a lier, a sqatter, a deficit spender the likes we've never seen. There is enough holes in the bu$h residency that any of a number of Dem candidates running can win. Saddams capture is not an October surprize. WE CAN WIN!!
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tsipple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:11 PM
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1. Just Had This Overwhelming Sense of Deja Vu
Anybody remember Noriega?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:16 PM
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2. Is OBL Rove's only trick before November?
With many months left of the Bush regime, you can be sure there are many more scandals, a la the Halliburton $61M, that will bubble to the top. He only has OBL left...what will he do to divert Wal Mart's attention if he should need to launch another salvo of Obfuscation Cluster Bombs?
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:39 PM
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22. Media makes Bush look like hero with Haliburton
Local media here in CT made it look like Bush was a hero with Haliburton for his demanding they pay back the money...
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:17 PM
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3. I look forward to the gloating...
there's nothing more repulsive, yet fascinating than watching a wingnut vomit out his self-congratulations, lap it up, then regurgitate it over and over again. Then the entire incident will backfire, just like the turkey incident, and the Bushies will have to whip up a new one. It's all they have.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:19 PM
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4. Good. Let them gloat!
Let them believe that 2004 is a done deal. Bwaahahahahaaaa!

:evilgrin:
dbt
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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:21 PM
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5. And they are, regrettably, right....
.... if the party continues with the presumptive nominee ordained by Mr. Gore earlier this week.

Yesterday's capture never put more starkly into focus the need to have a candidate who can meet DimSon and Rove toe to toe.

With his own well worn military boots.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:25 PM
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6. Tsk, tsk.
Using the Saddam capture to attack one of our Democratic candidates. Attack Bush, instead!

To quote from one of my favorite movies: 'How deliciously LOW.'
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:30 PM
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7. Then get your chosen candidate to step up and get people's support
These comments about "Dean can't win" are pointless. Let the alternative step up. If no one else is garnering the support Dean is, then what in heck are we supposed to do?

Dean is the man. At least for today. To say he can't win undermines your own party.
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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:36 PM
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8. My candidate, General Clark...
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 01:38 PM by MarkTwain
.... has already done so. Within hours, yes hours, of this morning's development, he targeted the Rove/DimSon machine with not one - but two - statements:

As befits a General, he first congratulated the command and the troops on a job well done; well demonstrating his military empathy predicated upon his own vast and successful military experience. Something the good Doctor might have problems equalling since he was busy verifying powder conditions while the General was becoming a General.

Then, he demanded transparency in the trial of Sadam. This has to strike fear into the dark souls of Rove, Cheney, and Rumsfield secondary to their prior complicity in matters of Sadam.

So, just exactly what did the good Doctor do this morning while the General was launching these preemptive attacks on the incumbent?

Inquiring minds want to know.

So, you tell me who was the better of the two in dealing with The Cabal this morning, huh?
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Pontus Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:49 PM
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9. Clark? Ask Putin where Russian/US relations would be...
if the British had listened to Clark and blasted innocent Russian troops in Kosovo.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:52 PM
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10. Putin Is A Neo-Czarist Dictator
I wouldn't want his kind as my ally.....

And Yeltsin, another Neo-Czarist dictator was in power during the alleged incident at Pristina.....
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:01 PM
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15. I like Clarks move on this
But I still fail to see why you had to turn this into an attack on another Dem. It would be easier and more productive to point out why Clark is a good candidate. Just like freepers Clarkies tend to get ahead of themselves sometimes with the gloating and opertunistic dog piling. When the smoke clears I think you will find Dean and other Dems calling for a real trial for Saddam OBL or anyone else we happen to get. It is also clear that this will not be a positive event for Bush ultimately as you can only claim victory so many times while the war continues without making people aware you are full of shit.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:56 PM
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12. Give it a rest
There is more to life and DU than whoring for your candidate. I wish the newbies understood this.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:59 PM
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14. I Wish Folks On This Board And Not You Would Not Confuse
The Emperical With The Normative...

Describing a phenomenon is not the same as endorsing it....

I think any serious student of politics would say Bush will be a tough adversary in 04....
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:06 PM
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18. No one said it was easy
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 02:06 PM by Sterling
But come on claiming we are screwed after this only shows that the poster is naive and not capable of putting this event in context of other recent Bush "successes". The pukes will try to say this will make things better, just like the aircraft carrier stunt it will prove hollow and become an albatross hanging around Roves fat neck.

This war is a loser for Bush and America in general. This new coat of paint won't make the turd that is Iraq smell better once the paint fumes wear off and people come to there senses.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:13 PM
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21. Here's My Take
Elections are usually referendums on the incumbent.... If folks like the job the incumbent is doing they will rehire him; if not they will fire him.... Bush is no excpetion...

This election will turn on peoples perception of the "war on terror" and the economy...

We can only make educated guesses or in some folks cases, wild ass guesses of where it wil be....

I don't know who are more hopelessly naive: the sky is falling crowd or the we'll beat Chimpy in a landslide crowd...

I honestly believe that some of the "we'll beat Chimpy" crowd wouldn't make that prediction if their life or the life a loved one counted on it...
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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:11 PM
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20. Well, Mr. Thousand Posts...
... please refrain from characterizing someone unless you truly know their history.

I have been on this board from about the third month of its founding. I just don't find the need, or the compulsion, to strive for four digits after my moniker.

A quality vs. quantity sort of thing, as it were. Besides, I have a real life which takes precedence over "post envy."

Except when it comes to recognizing that my party (of which I have been a member for forty five years) is again hurtling toward a cliff with a candidate who's gonna' drive us over it come hell or high water thanks in no small measure to a cult-like following which does not want to hear any opposition to their god.

Pardon me for having an opinion and a belief which I express frequently and stridently. And which I shall continue to do so.

Gee... maybe thanks to the good Doctor, I just might make it to that magical land of a thousand and not be such a "newbie," at least in some uninformed eyes, huh?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:02 PM
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17. Repeat after me...
"I will vote for any of the nine fine Americans who are the Democratic candidates. Any one of them is a million times better than Junior."


You down with ABB? Yeah you know me...
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:54 PM
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11. Give it a week.
Attacks on our troops have a way of pointing out we have not achieved anything near victory there.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 01:58 PM
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13. And they know we know they know
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:02 PM
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16. That is because some DUers are now implying the war was ok.
They are excusing their candidate's vote because Saddam was caught. I don't follow their reasoning, but that is just wrong.
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Sterling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 02:11 PM
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19. It seems stupid to us now.
Sad that it will only come clear to others over time just like the IWR. Bottom line is at all costs do not allow the slower people to get in the way. In no way should we allow anyone that is willing to excuse such stupity to lead those who know better. Those days are over.
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