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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 04:57 PM
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SO they get Saddam, does something about the timing not smell right?
Why now? Luck, or was the word given because something is going to break this week that the Shrub misadministration doesn't want on the front page, or can easily dismiss because of a 'lack of patriotism'.

Something is up, one of the 'scandas' is going to break, and what better way than to dominate the news with Saddam.

Call me paranoid, but thses F***ers don't go to the bathroom without a reason.
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Momof1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 04:59 PM
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1. I guess halliburton will be off the front pages now...................n/t
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:01 PM
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2. I don't think Haliburton is what they are worried about
One quick point about his capture. He had NO communication devices found on him or in the house/hidey hole. He wasn't coordinating attacks, so I think the intensity and frequency will not subside.

Somethng else is going on.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:02 PM
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5. Agree..n/t
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:02 PM
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3. Conveniently a "war crimes tribunal" was set up just last week...
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 05:03 PM by rfranklin
Let's see, trial testimony, sentencing, with execution to take about eleven months. Yeah, that's it, Saddam executed about Halloween. And two days later, Osama's corpse with signs of freezer burn will turn up two days later. Yep, that's the ticket!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:04 PM
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8. Yep. Been posting that all day...
Someone wanted the Iraqi tribunals set up before Saddam was captured.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:02 PM
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4. I agree with you.... But if you think about WHAT time BEFORE
the election next year would have sounded NOT suspicious, you'll realize that there is no such time...
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:02 PM
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6. Has any effing thing about this war ever smelled right?
I was just remarking to a friend this morning, ever since the bush administration parked its slimy self in the WH, it's been one damn coincidence after the other. If it weren't for the reality of the carnage, the last 3 years would look like a pathetic cartoon movie from the mind of a demented coke-snorting drunkard.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:03 PM
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7. Yeah, I thought so too
between the Halliburton thefts, Dean getting Gore's endorsement, and Newsweek saying that Junior's numbers are at an all time low, it wasn't exactly the best week for the Fraudministration.

Then out of nowhere, suddenly there's Saddam Hussein, supposedly armed with an AK-47 but not resisting capture at all??

Isn't it all just a little bit convenient?
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:06 PM
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10. No, the "raging economy" would boost the Boy Prince's numbers
Ever walk into your office and something is not right, like something is moved or gone, but you aren't quite sure what?

That's the feeling I'm getting.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:04 PM
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9. yes, that smell
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:14 PM
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20. Anyone figured out how they got the DNA tested so quickly?
I thought I was pretty smart, but I didn't think they could get results in minutes?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:06 PM
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11. Obviously this was timed to stop the Dean machine.
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 05:22 PM by stickdog
Otherwise, why play this ace now?

The Bush regime cannot withstand the type of full frontal criticism that Dean's general election strategy would be based on.
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:09 PM
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15. It's too early to worry about the Lean, Mean, Dean Machine
All the little hits to his polls and creditability don't warrant something this big. The hair on the back of my neck is standing up now. 9/11, the CIA, WMD lies, sheep found in the WH powder room?
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:12 PM
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16. I they had him for a while....I remember hearing of his imminent capture.
They stage everything so this smells fishy too...the fighting will intensify..how did magazines get interviews with SD already?

frankly...I put music on all day...God..these people are too much!
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:09 PM
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12. It was actually our luck
It was aparently some kurds that got the word out.. I read thaht the first news agencies about this was Iranian..


This is a bad time for Saddam news to be honest, ppl are distracted by MJ, christmas shopping etc etc
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:09 PM
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13. you know what I have found funny...
is that all the discussion sites that I go to...most of the rethugs that praise the war are very quiet...most of them are not saying a word about it...

strange indeed...the timing does seem a bit perfect...
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:09 PM
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14. Check this article
http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/120203/new_20031202014.shtml

Curious.
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:12 PM
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17. Interesting comment by LaHood
"Yes I do".

My point exactly, why today?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:13 PM
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18. Yep. And as soon as they had the Iraqi tribunals set up...
Prague, 11 December 2003 (RFE/RL) -- The U.S.-appointed Iraqi Governing Council this week set up a special tribunal to try former members of the Iraqi Ba'athist regime for crimes against humanity.

The creation of the tribunal, which will be staffed and led by Iraqi nationals, resulted from months of work. It will take many more months before the first trials actually start in Baghdad.

Iraqi Governing Council president Abd al-Aziz al-Hakim, in announcing the tribunal yesterday, said it was a historic achievement.

"This court will try cases of genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes committed from 17 July 1968 till 1 May 2003," al-Hakim said.

More...

http://www.rferl.org/nca/features/2003/12/11122003181030.asp
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:23 PM
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25. what does LaHood know?
this gives bush a bump in the polls and takes the talk off Dean , medicare fraud on seniors and halliburton overcharges.

Bush assured Iraq : You won't have to fear Saddam anymore.

Who will tell us that about Bush........you don't have to fear Dubya anymore?
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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:13 PM
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19. No
But you can bank on it that a DUer will question the timing of every single event, past or present. Must be rooted in Bush's omnipotence.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:16 PM
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21. A couple of days after the governing council sets up Tribunals...
Saddam is captured and you don't find that curious?
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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:28 PM
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27. It is very curious
that Saddam was captured just a couple of weeks after the Paris Hilton video hit the internet.

I just knew Paris was a republican.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:19 PM
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22. Worst news time of the year
These next two weeks are very dead news times. Fewer people are reading newspapers or watching news shows now than any other time. The reason is that people are using their spare time to Christmas shop.

If Bush was timing this arrest, he would have picked the middle of the Democratic Convention, or the day of the N Hampshire primary. This is not good timing for Bush.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:21 PM
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23. I don't know, every football fan in the country got the news today...
MSNBC even commented as such earlier today.
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:22 PM
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24. Good point, UNLESS, as I said, something else is up.
Not really when you think about it. Do it now, before everyone IS preoccupied, then when the bad news breaks (probably next Friday night) no one will notice. But Shrub gets a blip in the polls this week.
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BaltExpat Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:27 PM
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26. Call me paranoid...
Okay I will. Not everything in this vast, complex world revolves around U.S. politics. Do you really believe that Saddam's capture was a set-up. If so, please list every single organization and indivudual that would have to be a party to it. Come-on, we cannot even keep KFC's secret ingredients a secret ($20 and its yours;-)
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BuckeFushe Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:32 PM
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28. Uh, OK your entitled.
Quote:"Not everything in this vast, complex world revolves around U.S. politics"

Unfortunately everything HAS for the past three years. You find one thing that hasn't been touched by this evil group of Satan's minions (and I don't mean changing the Little Debbie slogan from'Eat a Little Debbie Today').
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:33 PM
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29. It seems far too premature
to be of any lasting benefit to Shrubco. The people will have forgotten it by election time , or will be completely sick of the subject.
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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:36 PM
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31. Oh they'll pull a lot more crap like this before the "election"
The power of the incumbant to control the news.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:38 PM
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32. Yep. Many "cards" have been gathered during the last two years...
this is only the first of many to be played.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:41 PM
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34. But this was one of the aces, maybe the trump ace. Why play it now? (nt)
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:47 PM
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36. And the answer to that is to watch how it is played...
Here's a good post..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=908551
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:57 PM
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37. PS: The surest way to get them to play a card is to put Haliburton or...
Harkin in the news. Remember the spring/summer of 2002? Enron/Harkin/Haliburton until suddenly we had to get Saddam.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:34 PM
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30. As soon as they were comfortable that Dean was the Dem nominee.
Rove must be certain it is too late for Dems to change course.

I don't buy that Saddam was befuddled and willingly opening his mouth for cameras to peer into. Not with all his personal idiosyncracies. He had to have been drugged or very comfortable with his captors.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:39 PM
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33. That makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER.
1) If the Repukes want Dean, why give his rivals ammo to bring him down months before a single vote has been counted?

2) If the Repukes want to hurt Dean in the general rather than the primaries, why play this card 11 months before the general?
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:43 PM
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35. How's this "theory"
There has been a lot of pressure on the false pretenses of the war making the mainstream media lately.

If he is tried in Iraq, most of the discussion will be his crimes against humanity there against his people and the Kurds.

Everything will focus on what a terrible, evil guy he really was.

This will more than support what the misadmins last reason for going to war in Iraq was, the liberation of the people and to remove an evil dictator.

They will likely not even get around to questioning his ties to 9/11 or his WMD before November.

All the nasties this man has done will just elevate Shrub as a hero.

Just a thought.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 05:58 PM
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38. But there is something else
If this trial is totally open to the media, think of how much dirt Saddam has on Bush that will possibly surface during the trial. That could make any benefit gained from this trial dissolve. Everything else Bush has used since the start of this stupid war to back himself up on has blown up in his face, I wouldn't be surprised if this one does too.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:35 PM
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39. A kick before it's locked...
:kick:
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