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WhosNext Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:11 PM
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We're in a war on terror, Saddam has been captured, bin laden is within
sight, Iraq seems to be stabilizing. So, let's change presidents to a vermont governor who used a medical deferment to get out of nam to go skiing, plus he wants to raise my taxes!!


Where's the logic?







Clark 04
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:12 PM
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1. Poop
and flamebait. You've been alerted.
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WhosNext Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:14 PM
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4. Truth hurts I guess.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:01 PM
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Yeah, because what you said is the truth
Of course based on what you say, why even vote for Clark? Why not just keep little President Bush right where he is?

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:13 PM
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2. Because war is bad, and services (like education) are good.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:13 PM
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3. Is this post constructive?
I support Clark, as well, but this sort of post is NOT the way to bring Dean supporters (or anyone else) over to Clark's side.

When Clark is attacked, does that make you want to abandon him????
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WhosNext Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:15 PM
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5. This is what the average Q public will be thinking.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:19 PM
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7. People like that would probably vote repuke anyway.
The REAL swing voters will mostly decide according to personality, looks, the last yard sign they saw on the way to the polls, etc etc.

I agree with you that Clark has the better chance in Novmber 2004, but I refuse to attack any other Dem candidate (with possible exception of Joe, today!!).
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WhosNext Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:39 PM
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12. Probably? Why take the chance though.
We NEED Clark.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:18 PM
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6. How nice that we have been able convince people that the US wealth...
...should be spent on killing people and better ways to kill people instead of taking care of one another.

I am saddened by that.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:19 PM
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8. Medical care, jobs, civil rights, the environment, local schools and local
Edited on Sun Dec-14-03 06:21 PM by stickdog
taxes. Huge, mounting deficits. A shitty Medicare law that costs seniors and threatens Medicare.

And what does Saddam have to do with the war on terror again? Talk about a logic deficit ...
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:27 PM
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9. Here's some logic by comparison:
Partisan supreme court ignores the evidence and selects a miserable failure who went AWOL during the time of Vietnam because the court is the same political party as the candidate (R). This miserable failure has no clue on how to be diplomatic nor knows how to follow the Constitution, that little document he's sworn to UPHOLD. He also spends ludicrous amounts of money; when broken down and analyzed, things don't add up - a Time magazine looking at $20 billion of that $87 billion Bush asked for re: Iraq showed numerous examples of misaccountability and other "fuzzy math". Indeed, Bush said Iraq oil would pay for the affair, so why hasn't it? While spending atrocious amounts of money, he's giving out gigantic tax breaks for the affluent. He also openly applauds the corporate intent of moving jobs overseas, claiming Americans aren't good enough!

Even the situation you've described has more logic than the nonsense we've had to endure for 3 years now!

Sorry, we need tax increases. We need to take charge of what we're doing today. WE need to responsible for the actions of today's generation and the choices we make and enact upon today. Not our children or grandchildren, who will be facing numerous catastrophies other than just a reckless, immature nation going bankrupt. And when that disaster hits, I'll consider myself lucky to be dead. For death would be far more comforting than to live through what's going to happen (assuming bush doesn't annihilate the world first.)
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WhosNext Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:38 PM
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11. 2004 is different than 2000 unfortunately.
I think Dean would have a better chance during a peacetime climate.
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dd123 Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:37 PM
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10. I don't get it. Isn't this worse for Clark? n/t
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:40 PM
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13. Sure!
Are you or your children of draft age? I certainly hope so, because when you cast your vote for Bush, don't be surprised if a few months later, Uncle Sam serves you a draft notice. Bush and his PNAC buddies have more ass lined up to kick and oil to steal. Don't be surprised if the strenghtening economy mysteriously collapses after election day, either. Gah!
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:44 PM
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14. Saddam has nothing to do with the 'war on terror'...
...just as Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. The Bushie PNAC got one of many dictators out of the way so their oily friends could have unfettered access to Iraq's oil. Bush* and his criminal crew of warmongers lied to force this country into an unnecessary war that has killed thousands of innocent men, women and children.

- Which part of this don't you understand?
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WhosNext Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:47 PM
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15. I do understand it, but the general populace will have little interest
in telling the difference. The mass media has already established the fact that Iraq is related to the war on terror. Clark is our best foreign policy candidate. Dean our absolute worst.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:54 PM
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16. Actually...Bush* has said in the past...
...that 'Saddam doesn't matter' and that Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. The media hasn't established that Iraq is related to the war on terror in any way. It's not a 'fact' at all...but misinformation spread by the American media and the Bush* administration.

- The media...like Bush* have been able to use false patriotism and nationalism to goad the people into supporting ANY war. Fighting in wars doesn't make one a 'foreign policy' candidate or the best qualified to work towards peace.

- It bothers me that you tend to spread right wing talking points in your effort to discredit and smear Democratic candidates.
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WhosNext Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 06:58 PM
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17. Um, no. He's said there's no connection to 911
Not there is no connection to the war on terror. The vast majority thinks it is related to the war on terror.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:01 PM
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18. Are you referring to facts or what the media has convinced...
...the vast majority is the truth? Perhaps YOU could tell us how Saddam is 'connected' to the war on terror?

- The Iraq 'war' is a lie and illegal. Nothing you or the Bush* Boot Licking media will change THAT fact.
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nomaco-10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-03 07:02 PM
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19. Another "everybody's illogical"
post if we don't vote for their candidate. Think like the sheeple, vote electability, don't vote left or all is lost, sealed records, military elitist, bush lite, yada yada yada....

I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm going to my primary in February and vote for my candidate because I think he'll do the best job for this country.
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