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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:07 AM
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Does the world owe us anything?
My friend and I are both recent college graduates who have had a hard time finding jobs. I have had a righteous indignance at the way everything is being run into the ground. People are being layed off left and right even during this faux recovery. The only jobs are being generated at Wal Mart. He is annoyed and angry too, but he also says that the world does not owe him anything. I can see how he would be right, however, I also see people that are not very intelligent, or educated who do not take any joy in their work weasel their way through things whereas smart decent hardworking people get stepped on for nothing. It seems like they get the breaks. Maybe the world does not owe us anything. But maybe, aren't we all owed at least some opportunites in life, and maybe some basic respect?
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gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:18 AM
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1. Sadly, you gotta make your own opportunities these days...
What's your degree?

If you have no shame or ethics, go into insurance... license to steal. And maybe, maybe after you build a nest egg, you can try to work to reform the system from inside.

Unfortunately, America's Finest News Source has it pegged...
http://www.theonion.com/3948/news1.html
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:28 AM
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3. I have a degree in Mathematics
I could go into actuarial studies, but I think that I am going to go to graduate school to get an MS in either Statistics or Accounting.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:25 AM
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2. Ive always been of the opinion
that if someone helps you to the top, show him some respect and payback . Bush's America puts people last, behind the interests of corporations who are stabbing the people who built them , in the back.

American made companies are now exporting the jobs we used to make them great. Thats a slap in the face and its making most people disgusted with the people who support Republican ideology which condones such behavior.

I got in a terrible argument with a RWer over this. He thinks they should be able to go where the labor is cheaper .
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:31 AM
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4. That's a complex question.
At the risk of sounding arrogant, I was exceptionally good at teaching. I was very close to parents and teachers, got good evaluations, was requested for job assignments, and on and on. Yet the bureaucracy never stopped shitting on me. I gradually became aware that the people most likely to be favored with promotions and pay raises included the laziest and most stupid, the biggest backstabbers, etc.

Eventually, I discovered the logic behind it. Education is a good old boy's club, firmly controlled by corrupt elements that promote their cronies, relatives and love interests. And that's pretty typical of this country in general; everything has become terribly corrupted.

There's no question that I've been ripped off big time, and I don't apologize for my belief that SOMEONE owes me big time. If it were legal, I wouldn't feel the slightest shame in breaking into the home of a teachers union whore and robbing him blind or embezzling funds from Bill Gates' bank account.

And I think that's a good attitude. I'm sick of people who don't see the connections between corruption and the fix we're in, or who don't believe in accountability for white collar criminals, school officials and politicians. When you consider that these MORONS help perpetuate the system, I sometimes feel like they owe me something, too - at the very least, a couple weeks behind bars just for being so stupid.

If the Revolution ever comes, I hope certain corporations are nationalized, corporate executives and Congressmen are brought to justice, and their loot is divided among those of us they've parasitized for so long.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 12:39 AM
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5. I actually wanted to be a teacher.
I worked my way through an education program, I started student teaching, but they removed me because they said I was not ready. I did make some small mistakes, but nothing that even came close to the behavior that would warrant such treatment. In a way I am actually glad that I am not teaching, because the good people keep getting hurt as I have experienced first hand. The education system is run by commies and rich parents as someone has told me. And the Republicans want to increase testing. Nothing in the system has anything to do with learning. I still feel indignant and like I am owed big time, and as Clinton would say "I feel your pain." A lot of feelings you have, I share.
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