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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:12 PM
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Defusing Dean Attack Memes
Recently I posted a couple of items about Dean

Dean Whopper of the Week
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=914087&mesg_id=914087

Chimpy's Dean Dream
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=915412&mesg_id=915412

In the whopper thread I was quite pleased to get some replies from Julie...the actual person who asked Dean about 9/11...and she and other Dean supporters made some great posts that somewhat defused the article I posted. Also liked the funny post saying it was only a castle burger! It was also amusing that several posters thought I was someone else...see below for more on this.

In the Chimp's Dean Dream thread I posted a cartoon with the "Dean is unelectable meme" The best response was another cartoon that basically nuked the original...thanks whoever that was...made me laugh for 10 minutes!

Anyway my point is, defusing anti Dean memes and posts, or those about any candidate, and not taking them personally, is good practice...for the primary and even more for the general election.

If you've been watching TV in the past week you might have noticed that the gloves are coming off...the candidates are beginning to attack each other and Dean..as front runner...has a bulls eye on his forehead. Politics is not for the meek or overly idealistic. Anyone who thinks the nomination is in the bag at this point hasn't watched many presidential primaries...anyone who we're all going to hold hands during the primary is deluded.

Anyway, Dean supporters are to be complimented on their strength and current position...but need to thicken their skin a bit. The reason you get attacked more is because you are in the lead!

DEFUSING ATTACKS 101:

Try not to get personal...attack the message not the messenger

Telling somebody the attack is Rovian, repugian etc doesn't refute it, during the primary it will be democrats attacking democrats, and Rove & CO will be watching very carefully.

Use humor...the funniest post or retort often wins!

Most of all have fun...this is democracy in action...not always pretty but usually fascinating.

One more thing...this is an internet forum!! Don't worry who is behind that username...after all it's just words on the screen. Debate the message. Defuse the attacks. Be smart not offensive.

As to identities, post counts etc...NOT VERY RELEVANT! I could be Carl Rove, another DUer with 5,000 posts, a journalist, a DK supporter, or even a "mystery shopper" checking out the troops for Dean...heh heh

Have Fun!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:14 PM
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1. Meme meme bo beme, banana fanna fo feme, dee die doh deme
Meme!
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:20 PM
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yo mama!
no...yo meme!
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:20 PM
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2. Pitt Pitt bo Bitt, banana fanna fo Fitt, mee mie mo Mitt
Pitt


(You sang it wrong, dude...had to set the record straight!)
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Ripley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:24 PM
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3. You guys are OLD.
I, of course am 29 and don't know what you are referring to.
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:27 PM
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5. Your parents never taught you that song?
Poor kid...lol
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:32 PM
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13. I'm 21 and I have no clue what this banana song is, but I want banana pie
;-)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:35 PM
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14. *pout* I want meme pie
Thats the best. :shrug: I think I remember the banana song but not sure.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:26 PM
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4. I got a meme today
TO JH KLEEB: BUSH SUCKS
:) Thats the best meme I've gotten since Grandma is making pork chops and mashed potatoes :9
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:28 PM
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6. You left off refute the facts with facts of you're own
I know this is exceptionally difficult when arguing about Dean's rhetoric vs. his record and especially his lack of foreign policy experience, but it should be on any list of ways to refute arguments.
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dajabr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:28 PM
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7. Hey, has anybody seen sandnsea?
:evilgrin:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:29 PM
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8. I dont know if they are the same person
but yeah seen her round.
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:30 PM
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10. yep right here!
oops...
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:42 PM
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18. Yeah.
.
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:48 PM
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20. where?? I hear she's a babe!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:25 PM
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21. Oooh, I'm so sneaky...
I really really really don't like Howard Dean. How many times have I said that? Why in the world would I feel the need to take an alternative name to say it again???

Besides, if you had really been paying attention, you'd remember I don't post threads like this to begin with. In fact, I rarely post IN them. If a post doesn't address an issue or is clearly inflammatory, I don't even click on them most of the time.

Actually, I rarely start threads at all, you might remember.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:30 PM
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9. I'm thinking of watching Auntie Meme tonight.
Either that or Meme Me in St. Louis.

Would anyone care to join me?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:31 PM
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11. Not unless you get me a burger at McMemes
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:35 PM
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15. Well, I was planning to order takeout from Meme Dynasty,
the Chinese restaurant down the street.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:36 PM
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16. I prefer Chinese
:)
so sure get me Meme.
I also would like fried meme rice.
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TexasPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:32 PM
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12. The ONLY meme i see around here
is the 'Marcus Meme'
the rest of it is just silly
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:39 PM
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17. Thanks for that important advice Windsea. The more DUers take your
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 05:40 PM by oasis
wisdom to heart, the easier the coming together will be after a nominee emerges.
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windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 05:46 PM
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19. Lots of funny posts!
good day to take a break from gloom and doom!
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