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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:17 PM
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If Lieberman was our only chance to defeat Bush would you support him?
I want Shrub out of office. I will vote for anyone left-of-center who can defeat him.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:18 PM
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1. Hell Yes I Would
Lieberman is an ass, but he's still better than Bush!

DTH
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:19 PM
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3. Would you actively support him?
Or just vote for him?
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:25 PM
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18. Mmm, Tough One
I can't say I'm able to answer you right now. If I'm confronted with that cold, hard possibility, I'd have to do a gut check and make a decision at that time.

DTH
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 03:45 PM
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117. He would need our help, I would think.
Since Democrats probably won't be energized to GOTV. I know my heart wouldn't be in it as much as it would with the other candidates. But another four years of Bush and I think I'd expatriate, so ABB would be my motivator and mantra.

Hopefully this is just a hypothetical situation.
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jbfam4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:21 PM
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11. No
I said this very thing last night....If Lieberman runs against Bush I won't vote. I hope it doesn't come to that, but Lieberman is too much like BUSH.

I am open to all the canidates, but after what Joe did to DEAN..Joe is off my list. I will support any other one, but JOE.
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KA Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:25 PM
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19. yes
i think he is our best chance
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LawDem Donating Member (366 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:19 AM
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109. I would vote for him than cut off my arm.
*
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:19 PM
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2. if Holy Joe is the Democratic nominee
I will support him.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:20 PM
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8. What if he was clearly our only chance to win?
Would you vote for him in the primary?
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interceptor Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:31 AM
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94. Yes
I still support him :) I won't get into a piss fight with the Deanies or anyone else, but at least he's not a populist and he hasn't given up his principles or run away from earlier decisions. I could vote for Lieberman with a clear conscience and doubt I'd be surprised when he took office. And I have serious doubts a far lefty will win...it does take a centrist these days.
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webkev Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:19 PM
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4. ABB (nt)
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:20 PM
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5. Yes.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:20 PM
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6. Yes.
Only if he is the nominee.
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:20 PM
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7. Lieberman is a wimp, but yes.
Hopefully he won't be our only chance.

I used to think otherwise, but the thought of 4 more years of Bush is not pleasant.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:20 PM
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9. No.
At least with Bush I'd know that the entertainment industry wouldn't be censored. I can't support anyone that believes in censorship.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:22 PM
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13. Yeah, bloodthirsty invasions are much better
And if you think that Bush isn't censoring the entertainment industry far more effectively than Lieberman is accused of wanting to do, you are not paying attention.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:22 PM
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15. Remember, Lieberman supported that bloodthirsty invasion.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 05:46 PM
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122. True, but "support" does not mean "would have done the same"
The Bushies basically tricked the Senate into backing this war, claiming Iraq had delivery systems by which they could hit the east coast at "any time".

All bogus, of course. Turns out Saddam couldn't have hit the left coast of the Euphrates, but I doubt Lieberman is quite as evil as we like to say around here.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:33 PM
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26. Censorship vs. ?
considering everything you would be giving up, movies must be REAL important to ya!
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 03:19 PM
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115. That isn't the only reason.
But it's a major reason.

I'm also not in favor of his I/P stance, which IMO is more hawkish than Bush's. His FP is JUST as hawkish as Bush's and I fear that on a lot of other issues he's just the same.

Really, we're trading in a duck, FOR a duck. It might look a bit different, but in the end it's the same.
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resist Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:21 PM
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10. Don't think so . . .
He's an opportunist and has bought the whole DLC line about centrism; I hope he exaggerates his centrist attitudes because he sounds like a republican. never.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:22 PM
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12. Lieberman would leave most of Bush's policies in place
To his credit, Lieberman is pro-choice and pro-gay rights, but his foreign policy would be as reckless and imperialistic as Bush's.

I cannot reconcile my marching with a banner saying "Death to American Imperialism" with voting for someone like Lieberman.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:24 PM
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16. But you could vote for Bush? Or just stay home, which?
I honestly don't understand. You know what Bush will do, and has done. You suspect what Lieberman might do. So you reward Bush by giving him your vote rather than Lieberman? I honestly can't even grasp that.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:57 PM
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84. I live in Indiana, which will always go Republican like Utah
the only way a Democrat can carry Indiana would be if we were to abolish the Electoral College AND Jesus Christ appears and endorses the Democratic candidate, and even then it would be iffy.

I have a luxury many people in other states don't have, I can always vote for a third party in the Presidential.
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VT70 Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:50 AM
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96. Yeah,
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 01:50 AM by VT70
and you can keep encouraging people in battleground states to not vote for the hypothetical Democrat, too, IG. :eyes: Don't think that what you say isn't picked up around here.
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GR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:22 PM
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14. Of Course, But He Isn't....
If he were to win the nomination, hell would have to freeze over, and he wouldn have no chance to beat Bush is he did win the nomination. I wouldn't vote for Bush, no matter what. Third party, not sure yet, it would depend. Maybe Dean would run as a third party candidate.
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:25 PM
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17. in Bizarro World, maybe
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JailBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:26 PM
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20. No.
I would urge people to vote against Bush, and therefore vote for Lieberman. But I wouldn't compromise my integrity by "supporting" Lieberman or claiming he's anything but a world-class jerk.

On the contrary, I'd use Campaign 2004 as yet another example of why it's so important to get involved in LOCAL politics. With candidates like Bush/Gore and Bush/Lieberman, who needs enemies?
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:26 PM
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21. Yes (n/t)
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:28 PM
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23. Lieberman is slightly to the left of Dean
Joe would have a better chance than Dean but we have better candidates.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:47 PM
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44. LOL!
Bill, my friend, can I have some of what you're smoking? :D
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:27 PM
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22. My absentee vote would be cast and I would await the GE results while in
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 06:28 PM by oasis
another country.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:30 PM
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24. Absolutely. And I would vote for Joe before Kerry or Clark
and you all know why.

But I prefer Dean/Edwards
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:32 PM
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25. sure i would
I find it hard to imagine how he could be a winning candidate under any circumstances but Good Lord he's certainly better than the alternative.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:43 PM
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27. No on Crazy Repig Joe..no matter what and
I would give my vote to little man bushie. Why? Because this country would need to hit bottom, just like an alcoholic, before the government of the people standup and fight against the bush criminal family.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:45 PM
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28. If that happens, then ask me
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:56 PM
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29. False alternatives, I think.
IMO, Lieberman is one of the Dem (?) candidates who could NOT possibly defeat GWB, so the question is pointless.

But, yeah I would vote for him, unless I had something more important to do that day, like washing cats, or getting a pedicure!!!
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:57 PM
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30. Yep. I'll vote for just about anyone vs. Bush
n/t
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 06:57 PM
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31. NO
Corrupt what's left the Dem congress with PNAC warmongering??

Not with my help.
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lancemurdoch Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:15 AM
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97. No - sometimes it's better tactically to lose a battle
And actually, I think the battle would be already lost if he is nominated. I don't see how he is better than Bush, to me, he IS Bush.
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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:02 PM
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32. Officially, I'm ABB
But Joe's recent attacks on Dean may change that. I'm comforted by the fact that I have a better chance of getting the nomination than Joe does, but if (God forbid) it should ever come down to it, I honestly think it would be a tough decision; if I did it, it would be grudgingly so and without any help to his campaign whatsoever.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:06 PM
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33. Nope...and that's when I REALLY would leave the country....
nough said...
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:06 PM
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34. Hell yes...
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 07:08 PM by MrBenchley
If it was Joe Lieberman's used snot rag, I'd be out there chanting "Kleenex! Kleenex!"

Bush is unelectable...and unacceptable. I'm not going to go down without a fight. I don't think we'll get stuck with Joe...but I'll take whoever it is.


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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:07 PM
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35. no. n/t
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:10 PM
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36. Yes, I'd take Joe over Dubya any day
As much as I disagree with him on the war, I still think we'd be better of with Lieberman at the helm.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:11 PM
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37. Moot point
Holy Joe is not our only chance - not by any stretch of the imagination.
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TXDemGal Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:19 PM
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38. ABB in '04
I'd hold my nose but I'd do it.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:20 PM
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39. If satan were running against Bush, I would become a devil worshipper.
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soupkitchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:31 PM
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40. Why would satan run against himself?
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:34 PM
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41. I am undecided after seeing him on Hardball last night.
He seems to be swinging too far right for me. If he were the nominee, I just might vote Green if Ralph Nader runs.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:40 PM
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42. Of Course
for me that goes without saying, I will vote for ANY Democrat who get the nomination!
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:46 PM
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43. Absolutely!
I don't support Lieberman....but unlike many on DU.....I see the Senator as a legitimate Democratic candidate in the mold of a JFK --- nothing more, nothing less. His positions down the line are closer to John Kennedy than anything "Bush lite".....
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:51 PM
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45. Yes but,
I might not respect myself in the morning!
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 07:52 PM
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46. Wouldn't like it, but no question, Holy Joe is NOT Bush!
But it's not about who or what I like, or my particular "vanity" candidate.

It's about getting * the hell out of office, and whoever stands the best chance of doing that gets my vote!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:05 PM
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47. Interesting how there's very few Dean avatars on this thread
I wonder why?? Gee! I wonder why??

The fact that this thread was avoided by a lot of Deanie Boppers is very interesting.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:50 PM
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56. There would be one in THIS thread, if it weren't the Christmas season.
:eyes:
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amber dog democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:12 PM
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48. lesser of two weasels
of course i would. could there be anyone worse than the chimp? I'd vote for Al Capone over Bush.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:16 PM
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49. First of all,
if Holy Joe were the nominee, I would have feeling that the election is a setup for chimpy. No way in hell would Joe win with or without my support.

Second, he's NOT the only chance to defeat chimpy. See paragraph above. So the statement is moot. Nice strawman.
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election_2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:42 PM
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50. No fucking way....
A Lieberman victory in 2004 would virtually guarantee a Bill Frist presidency in 2008, not to mention shifting both the Democratic and Republican parties further to the right.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:44 PM
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76. No. Jeb Bush would run in 2008.
n/t

John
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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:43 PM
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51. better than Nader, of course I'd support him
how silly !
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:44 PM
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52. I would vote and campaign for him
But I don't think he could win. And I don't envision him being our only chance.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:47 PM
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53. ABB
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:48 PM
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54. Yes, I would.
If Joe becomes the general, I'm a soldier in his army, as WillPitt puts it.
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cirej2000 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:48 PM
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55. C'mon folks this is easy
...cmon...
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:52 PM
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57. I hate him, so YES
He's as right wing as they come and a reason so much of the electorate thinks there is no difference between the parties.

BUT ANYBODY IS BETTER THAN BUSH :grr:
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Field Of Dreams Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:53 PM
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58. Sure...
just based on his environmental record alone.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:55 PM
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59. Even Joe is better than bush*
He'd get my vote.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:58 PM
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60. Nah, sorry. I cannot lie.
He is a troll.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 08:58 PM
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61. Look at it this way. Bush = Ashcroft...Lieberman = No Ashcroft
What is so hard to understand about that? It don't take no rocket scientist to figure this one out.

Don
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morgan2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:00 PM
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62. never
I would vote for Bush over Lieberman
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:18 PM
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67. Would you tell us what makes Bush better than Lieberman? <eom>
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:34 PM
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68. I would like to hear that answer too n/t
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:02 PM
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63. Since he is marginally better than a ham sandwich
I would certainly support him if he was the Democratic candidate for President against the pResident.

I would work diligently for him to the best of my ability.

And I would expect to lose disastrously in November.
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gate of the sun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:11 PM
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64. luckily I won't be faced with this question
so I won't try to rake my soul to come up with an answer.
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Scott Lee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:16 PM
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65. I'll go Green before I vote for that anus munch.
Trust me - he'd start a few wars too, and all by consulting with Ariel Sharon first.
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 09:17 PM
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66. I might have to go green... Or not!
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:37 PM
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69. so would I, but...
Lieberman isn't left of center....so...

NO.

As a Jewish American and the mother of two Jewish Americans, I consider Lieberman a national embarrassment. I can't stand to watch him or hear him. I don't see any significant difference between him and W. Look at his voting record.

Sorry, but he's a loserman.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:37 PM
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70. Lieberman left of center?????
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 10:39 PM by Cascadian
you gotta be kidding, right?


Look. Lieberman does not have a chance in hell to get the nomination. If he gets the nomination, I don't know if I will vote for him, but I know this. Bush would hand him his ass! He is just too Republican Lite to be the nominee.





John
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:37 PM
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71. O Hell yeah!!!
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:38 PM
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72. Yes
n/t
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Doctor Panacea Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:55 PM
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82. Lieberman?
No. Lieberman is a dried-up old prune. And he whines in a nasally voice. And his policies are not acceptable, either.

And I am for Dean. I just do not use his picture, since I prefer the Bard for that. :hippie:
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:41 PM
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73. I would vote for him believe it or not BUT....
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 10:45 PM by Cascadian
but afterwards I would find a toilet to throw up in and then get some Vodka and commiserate Bush's landslide victory. The next day, I would be making plans for my move to Vancouver.






John
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:44 PM
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74. I don't know honestly
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 10:44 PM by mmonk
I don't think conquering nation states that don't attack us in order to make us safer on a what if is a democratic nor American principle. And from what I can tell, that's Lieberman's position.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:44 PM
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75. Yeah, but 'twould be a bitter pill.
And I'd even campaign for him.
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ochazuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:46 PM
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77. Yes, though he would lose SO big
He is not the type that Americans put in their White House, don chaneau.

Not to worry, though; he has zero chance of getting the nomination.

Somebody will emerge as the non-Dean, but it will be Clark or Edwards maybe, not Leiberman. I like him (personally), but he just doesn't cut it as a presidential candidate.
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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:54 PM
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81. Lieberman would lose!
And this is where I would be by the spring of 2005!






John
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NavajoRug Donating Member (330 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:47 PM
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78. I would support Lieberman, but . . .
. . . God help us if he is our best hope of defeating Bush. He couldn't possibly win in 2004.
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:49 PM
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79. Nope! Lieberman owes his allegience to the Likud party
and is more or less an Israeli agent. My position concerning Lieberman was nailed tight by his comment about Dean (re: Hussein) during the last few days. If it should come down to a choice between Bush and Lieberman, I'd know that democracy was dead in America and I'd just as soon leave the country.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:01 PM
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:50 PM
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80. Yeah, but why are you spoiling my evening with the image of this
Edited on Tue Dec-16-03 10:51 PM by Zorra
possible horrifying scenario?:hurts:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:56 PM
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83. Why even discuss this? He has ZERO chance of getting the nomination.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 10:57 PM
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85. Yes.
Not my first (or second or third, but...), but yes, I would.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:04 PM
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87. not even worth responding to
:shrug: the fact is, he WON'T be the nominee. nuff said.
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PSR40004 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-03 11:06 PM
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88. Leaning Dean but warming to Joe myself....
I started off leaning Dean but now find myself warming to Joe, I sort of like the guy and he's alittle ahead of dean in foreign policy...
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Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 12:54 AM
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89. No.
If the Arabs already think we're joined at the hip with Israel, imagine what message this would send them.
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Greyhawk Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:08 AM
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90. Why not?
The government is much more than the Pre-cedent... It's far more important to control the House and the Senate and he'd make it easier to take back both houses... After all, we do need the more central D's to stop the R's judges now, and there are SOME things they'd go along with. Take what you can get and keep working!
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shawn703 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:09 AM
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91. Yes
No question about it, Bush has to go.
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:11 AM
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92. Yes
But I wouldn't be very happy about my choices.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:11 AM
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93. Yes only if he's the nominee
but I probably wouldn't donate any money or do any extra work for him.

Ok, I'd put a bumper sticker on the car. And I'd hold my nose as I voted for him. Cause if Bush gets 4 more years I'm going to :puke:
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 01:49 AM
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95. Lieberman doesn't HAVE a chance.
He literally does not have a snowball's chance in a blast furnace.

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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 02:18 AM
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98. If that happens, I move to Canada
PNAC vs PNAC = we lose either way
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:23 AM
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99. Yes, reluctantly, holding my nose...
I am sure he would lose nationally, though.

And i would not work very hard fro him, as i would for any of the others.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:28 AM
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100. Like that would ever happen
Not in a million years.

Moldy sweat socks poll higher than LIEberman.
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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:36 AM
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101. Very uncertain.
For my reasons, see my post elsewhere this morning here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=928335#928436
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:50 AM
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102. No. Green for me.
The same goes for Kerry, Gephardt, or Edwards. Fortunately, it doesn't look like any of these pathetic BushCorps collaborators in the IWR have much of chance.

It's time we take our party back.
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Iverson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:52 AM
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103. No.
In that event, third party for me and my wife and probably a whole lot of friends and family members who would otherwise have voted Dem.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:53 AM
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104. Yep - better than Dean!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:28 AM
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 08:53 AM
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105. Lieb might have supported the war but i doubt hed started it
He might be alittle too conservative but if he was our only chance.. hell yeah.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 09:09 AM
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106. Yes (sigh) I would. Even "Jowley Joe"....n/t
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adriennel Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:13 AM
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107. 'fraid not
That man does not represent me. I may have to go Green. I absolutely do not want Bush to win, but I can't vote for a candidate that I don't support (all other Dems are fair game at this point).
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:16 AM
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108. NO..i would stay home...i will not vote for joe
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:25 AM
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110. Certainly.
If Lieberman was our only chance to defeat Bush would you support him?

Sure. I really don't think Joe is all that bad. He's not as liberal as I'd hope the next President will be, but he's certainly not anything like the arrogant, despotic little degenerate we have in the White House now.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:27 AM
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111. Lieberman is left of center?
I don't even want to think about Lieberman getting the nomination. Ugh.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:32 AM
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113. I wouldn't enjoy it, but HELL YES!!!
n/t
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GobGoober Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:41 AM
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114. If Lieberman were to go up against Bush
I would either cast no vote, or I would consider a vote for Bush.

Why vote for a fake Bush when you can vote for the real thing?

:shrug:
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 03:20 PM
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116. YES. Without hesitation.
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batesboys Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 03:54 PM
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118. How come
it is ok to stay home instead of vote for Lieberman but it is not ok, with the people on DU, to stay home instead of vote for Dr. Coward N.R.A. Dean? It is the same hypocracy as shown by the Rethugs.
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 03:55 PM
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119. I'll make up my mind if that happens
lately I've been leaing ABBOL but I'm not officially there yet.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 04:52 PM
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120. absotutely
as Tigger says.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 04:53 PM
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121. Lieberman a lot better than Bush...
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 06:01 PM
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123. Absolutely
I don't agree with his position on the Middle East but he's more liberal than Dean on the other issues.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 06:28 PM
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124. ABB ABB ABB ABB ABB
ABB ABB ABB ABB ABB
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 06:49 PM
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125. Probably.
I don't consider his politics to be much different than Dumbya's. The differenc is that he isn't under the influence of the PNAC and BFEE I hope anyway.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 07:13 PM
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126. NO, I want a CHANGE in government not more of the
same.

My response might be different if the Senate and House of Reps were in Democratic control. If that happened then we'd have a VERY conservative Dem as president but there would be the checks and balances that come with opposition parties.

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