"The Iraqi People" will decide this, "The Iraqi People" that,...

Junkdrawer

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Wed Dec-17-03 08:06 AM
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"The Iraqi People" will decide this, "The Iraqi People" that,...

Could someone tell me how the pResident and the press can so freely refer to the will of "The Iraqi People" without an election?

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Wed Dec-17-03 08:42 AM
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1. The "Iraqi People" for the Busites...

...wear suits and ties, haven't lived in Iraq in forty or so years and speak Arabic with an English accent; that's the only "Iraqi People" who count with this administration.

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GiovanniC

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Wed Dec-17-03 08:57 AM
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3. Yes, "The Iraqi People" = "Chalabi"

Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 08:59 AM by GiovanniC

For example, when Bush says that Saddam's fate will be decided by "the Iraqi People", he means the Iraqi people who haven't been Iraqis since they were teenagers. Or the Kurdish Iraqi people, or the Shiite Iraqi people. You know that he certainly has no intention of Saddam's fate being determined by the Sunnis, or the Iraqi people who hail, for example, from Tikrit or Fallujah (where Saddam remains relatively popular).

In other words, "Saddam's fate will be decided by the Iraqi people {that we choose}. He will be tried by Iraqis {that are hand-picked by us}."

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CWebster

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Wed Dec-17-03 08:54 AM
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2. Or the fact that the Iraqis have made it quite clear

that they want the US military occupation force to leave?

Why the hell are we there? No wmds, the great and powerful Saddam evil incarnate of the hour, living in squalor while the US military camps out in palaces and the Iraqis are fortunate if they have electricity and running water.
Why they hell are we there, beliving some garbage about liberating the Iraqis while they attack us - who they are trying to liberate themselves from.

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Junkdrawer

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Wed Dec-17-03 09:20 AM
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4. Free elections seem to be the chief opposition demand...

One demand is now uniting nearly all Iraqis, from armed resisters to trade unionists to Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani. Elections! And it is the one demand to which the US has refused to agree, because it has accurately assessed the likely result. That is also why it swiftly moved to stop elections of city mayors and why, a few weeks ago, it sacked the elected dean of Baghdad university after his outspoken criticisms of the occupation authorities.

The Guardian: Resistance to occupation will grow

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Don Claybrook

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Wed Dec-17-03 09:24 AM
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5. Do you recall how Ari Fleischer always attributed feelings to you?

Ari would always say things like "The American People are tired of politics as usual in Washington, and they support President Bush."

or

"The American People are concerned about the balsa gliders of death that Saddam could launch at us within 45 minutes, and they support the President".

And so on.

So it's no big stretch to presume to speak for a people who have no power and no voice, when you already claim to speak for a people who do have a voice but don't raise it in opposition to their thuggery.

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Junkdrawer

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Wed Dec-17-03 09:29 AM
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6. It's one of the things that's been bugging me of late...

The idea that appointed (as opposed to fairly elected) representatives may soon be construed to represent my will. Kind of like the appointed governors of the King George III days.

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