Making fun of DU members about tax cuts.

Here is my repuke boss's analogy on DU's view of tax cuts (he trolls here all the time).

The Yankess and Mets are scheduled to play a baseball game at Yankee Stadium. Due to rain and lightning, the game is cancelled. Yankee management announces that cash refunds will be given immediately to everyone who bought a ticket. BUT WAIT, the DU people step in and tell the Yankees that it would be UNFAIR to give refunds to everyone. Here is what DU thinks would be "fair" according to democratic party principals.

First, give everyone who bought a $20 cheap seat ticket a $30 refund because they have less money and have to get by with "cheap seats".

Second, give everyone who purchased a $30 mezannine seat ticket a refund of $30 because that would just be "fair".

Third, give everyone who purchased a $50 luxuary box ticket NO refund at all, in fact charge them a $25 SURCHARGE on their next ticket purchase because they have the most money and can afford it.

Finally, for all the poor people who drove by Yankee Stadium and could not afford to purchase a ticket, give them $15 in cash because they "deserve" a refund even though they didn't buy a ticket.

I can't say anything to nasty too him because I need my job and I like him as a person (politics aside). And he jokes alot about politics so this isn't a big deal to me at all. But he honestly believes this is the way democrats think. And he can't understand why I don't understand his viewpoint.

He isn't obligated to support the Yankees. As an American citizen, he has an obligation to support this country. If he hates his country so much, get the hell out. (I love using Freeper logic)

I just get so tired of these lame tax analogies that the creators of really seem to think are brilliant.

How can you give $30 back to someone who paid $20? Obviously, with taxes, you're returning only what they paid to begin with. He's just toying with the concept. Anyway, I hope he enjoyed his portion of the dividend cut.

I've heard similar rants about things like this - restaurant bills, now sports tickets - that types like Sean Hannity love to repeat because it illustrates what they think of taxes. Taxes are not analogous to simple bills and prices. Anyone who uses these anecdotes is most likely not serious.

take his money and give it to people who don't want to work. Of course that's bullshit, but I'm not gonna change his mind.

on reparations to slaves then...

Plus, I bet those luxury boxes were deducted on someone's or some corporation's income tax return as a business deduction (if the corporation paid any taxes to begin with).

If anyone is enslaving someone today, make them pay reparations.

Honestly, he's not a bad guy. But his ideas are purely right-wing whacko bullshit.

I think every TAXPAYING American deserves a tax break, especially the little guy. For too many years the fatcats in DC have taken my money and have no idea where they spent it. However, I don't think that someone who pays no taxes should get a refund from the government. How can you possibly refund someones money when they never gave you any in the first place.

I really wish all those "little guys" would just KEEP ALL THEIR money and leave the rest of us the F alone.. But.. when you need a road, a hospital, a school, a court system, ...you know...anything that is not a military (which they seem to wet themselves over).. BUILD IT, GET IT YOURSELVES...

No Social security for them .... let them pay by the mile when they drive....

I am "up to here" with the libertarian Crap..Mine mine mine mine mine.. I am beginning to think that they are stuck in time.. at around the toddler stage..

Their Mommas musta been crack-hos who had no time for them and it's pissed them off seriously :)

try to paint people who pay payroll taxes as "people who don't pay taxes". Maybe they are not technically "income" taxes, but they are taxes nonetheless and they are substantial when taken out of a person's paycheck (along with FICA which we may never see...). Also, this doesn't take into account all of the other taxes that poor or middle income people pay such as property, sales, etc. taxes.

1) Payroll taxes are taxes too. In fact, most people pay the majority of their taxes as payroll taxes.
2) If you want to find out where they're spending $$, check out the following links:
http://www.house.gov/appropriations/
http://www.house.gov/budget/
http://www.senate.gov/~appropriations/
http://www.senate.gov/~budget/
3) We shouldn't be cutting taxes with this bad of a budget deficit for ANYBODY.

should be cutting spending.

Nexxxxxt..

It's probably best to not discuss politics with someone who signs your paycheck..:)

other challenges our political views. I enjoy sparring with him. He knows he can't change my mind and I can't change his. Our votes cancel each other out.

That the people who bought the $50 tickets end up not only getting the better seats but also free hot dogs and sodas as well as signed bats and baseballs from every player on both teams and access to the players and managers after the game to give them their input on how they should play the next game.

Maybe I should reopen our discussion.

the "executives" in my former office were passing that crap around too. (ALL of whom are repukes). Their simplicity is not only ignorant, but frightening.

Most repukes I know are good people, just very selfish when it comes to money. They don't want to pay taxes for anything but to fight our wars, put out our fires, maintain our highways, and arrest bad guys.

in the sense, of how short-sighted and arrogant they are. :)

Yep, that's what my part of the great tax cut nets me. That'll get me far!

But it did get me to thinking. Roughly speaking, someone making 10 times what I make might see an extra $350.00 a month. Someone making 100 times what I make (ie, corporate CEO), could see as much as an extra $3500.00 a month. Since the consumer (you and me) are the largest part of the economy, might it not have made sense to let the fat cat mentioned above keep $3000.00 and apply his extra $500.00 to people like me who actually do the spending at the consumer level?

of tax cut money to donate back to Bush campaign.

ants and grasshoppers?

Tell your boss the Pentagon lost $1 Trillion in taxpayer's money. Ask him if he still thinks half his tax dollars should go there.

The Pentagon is his favorite "cost center". I showed him an article on the $1 trillion that cannot be accounted for. He has no answer. I work for an accounting firm and it is totally unbelievable that so much money is "lost in space". Repukes don't like to admit any problems with the defense establishment.

OK, the new GM decides that he'll give all paying customers a significant rebate on the ticket price they paid. Everybody gets the same % back.

Now the people in the hi-paying seats get all kinds of special breaks...free food and booze, hob nob with the players, other perks not available to everyone in the bleachers.

Now the stadium needs a lot of repairs, but instead of raising seat prices....everyone pays a flatrate user fee. Cuz there's a lot more bleacher seats, the poor saps in the bleachers are paying the majority of the costs...while those in the luxury boxes end up paying a much smaller cost for their luxury boxes.

Is that fair?

Anyway, I find that logic specious on its face. We are not all born of equal opportunity.....just look a GWB. The game is already fixed the day you are born...people can get ahead in the USA, but they benefit from the capiltalistic rules that this country affords. Seems like paying a higher rate to make this a better country for all is a fair obligation to live in a country that allows you to acrue wealth to begin with.

But I guess I just I am not as selfish about money and that's why I'm not a republican.

Even poor repukes have a problem with taxes. I firmly believe in a highly-progressive tax system with a top marginal rate of 40%. None of that flat-tax shit.

What do Hannity, Rush, Coulter, etc. say every day in one way or another?

"It's okay to be greedy."

by raising the minimum wage, which is far more beneficial than any one-time taxcut.

The Yankess decide they want to have a better team next year (like we want a better America). What are the Yankees going to do? Will they refund money to ticket holders with it more heavily weighted to the luxury box ticket holders and hope that those people all come back next year and spend more money at the stadium, thereby enabling the Yankess to invest in the team some time down the road? Will they spread the money around and hope that everyone comes back and spends it? Or, will they raise ticket prices (primarily for luxury boxes, since they can pay it) and invest in the team now?