Sponsors of Dean/Osama Ads Wants Refund: "Despicable"

I would argue that they've hurt all the Democratic candidates involved. It's just plain sick. :(

Gephardt has no idea of what the Hell he is doing!

The Gephardt record of shame:

President, House Leadership Agree on Iraq Resolution



President George W. Bush along with bipartisan leaders from the House and Senate announced the Joint Resolution to authorize the use of the United States Armed Forces against Iraq. "The statement of support from the Congress will show to friend and enemy alike the resolve of the United States," President Bush said during the announcement in the Rose Garden, Wednesday, October 2, 2002. White House photo by Paul Morse.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-7.html

i'm not sure if i'm 100% behind dean, but that sloan guy was ABSOLUTELY right when he said "the ads are despicable."

how is anybody going to beat dumbya if all they do is call each other names??

ooh.. hehe.. just realized, that smacks of "can't we all just get along?"

:D hooray for the International Association of Machinists!!

We are often quick to express our displeasure, how about giving Sloan a pat on the back? rsloan@iamaw.org

thank you, i think i will :D

whereas Max Cleland couldn't.

It's a JOKE!

I don't think what happened to Max Cleland is funny. He sacrificed three limbs defending your freedom. In public office, he's done as much as anyone to fight for a better future for all Americans. Unlike the draft dodging Libertarian you support, Cleland is a good Democrat.

Not to take anything away from Max Cleland but "Defending our Freedom" ~ really. How was our freedom in danger by the Vietnamese? Your little feel good sound bites should reflect reality in a small way anyway. In no way was our freedom ever in danger during the Vietnam conflict. I take that back. Nixon did quite a bit to curtail our freedoms during that time period. He had people following normal Americans just to intimidate them. He had the FBI keep dossiers on many Americans but the Vietnamese did absolutely nothing. In fact I would venture to say that those backing Nixon and the Vietnam war did more to erase freedoms than any vietnamese army ever could do.

Now's the time to go after "so-called" progressive special interest groups whose real agenda is to set the table for the Bush's election committee in the general election.

Let's unmask those that are spreading these veiled attacks against all Democrats. Every candidate should disavow these ads and tactics to show we really are unified and to show the public to what level the RW will stoop in trying to win the Presidency for the squatting Dimson.

But my mind's open on the issue - time will tell. I think they have to be outed in February.

by Representative Gephardt that is even close to similar to this. This fits the GOP MO quite well.

is a former Democratic congressman from Ohio. If it was really Republican money, I'd imagine a Dem chairman would cry foul.

I, unfortunately, think it's probably the Dems setting up their circular firing squad..

to receive enough electorial votes (unless is is Lieberman, Gephart or Clark of course) so that McAuliffe will be able to appoint the Democratic Candidate of his choice. Is this how the system works? If one candidate does not win sufficiently in the primaries the DNC appoints a candidate?

The primaries and caucuses elect delegates to the convention. The convention chooses the candidate. If one candidate does not have a majority on the first ballot there will be a second round after that and as many more as are needed until a winner emerges.

Isn't that done by the DNC?

That being the hundreds of 'superdelegate' votes that are also considered. Superdelegates, if I understand it correctly, are generally DNC 'bigwigs' of various sorts, typically governors and such already elected to office. I think Peg Lautenschlager, the WI AG who just endorsed Dean, is a superdelegate, for instance.

Superdelegates amount to something like 40% of the votes needed for nomination.

the superdelegates, he has a page up here

http://www.grumpyoldbear.com/Superdelegates.htm

Out of the 767 superdelegates, 180 are declared with 57 going to Kerry and 43 to Dean. Interesting.

those Americans that opposed the war in Iraq. The ad's underlying message is that to oppose Bush's war in Iraq is to support terrorism.

This ad has invalidated the calls for ABB!

Who needs Democrats like Gephardt & Kerry, who appear to be willing to tear down fellow politicians to reach their personal aspirations for power. I'm sick of Repuke-like tactics from our so-called "Democratic" leaders. If you can't engage your party competitors in civil discourse, then screw you...no vote from this life-long Democrat.

This is EXACTLY why the Repukes kick our asses. They form a unified front, while some amongst our party snipe and slime each other. We will NEVER win divided, people!

JB

the truth hurt?

Why? the truth hurt?

The underlying message of the Dean/Osama ad is that those that opposed Bush's war in Iraq are supporting terrorism. I want to impress upon you, and all others that see this ad as acceptable, that the ad is smearing millions of voters that marched and demonstrated against Bush's reckless adventure in Iraq.

There are going to be serious consequences for the Democratic Party in November 2004 if a significant number of antiwar voters. alienated by some of the filth that comes out from the PNAC faction of the Democratic Establishment, choose to take their votes to a real peace candidate and party.

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