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doubles Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:58 PM
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Strom Thurman
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 11:10 PM by doubles
What was his daughter fearful of? Why did she wait till today to come out of the closet?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 10:59 PM
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1. Jungle fever sounds a bit like a racial slur
Was that your intention?
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doubles Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:01 PM
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3. No sir, it was a Spike Lee movie, do you know who Spike Lee is? nt
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:05 PM
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7. I do indeed
Just seemed a bit inappropriate on a Democratic message board.
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:09 PM
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12. It still IS inappropriate <eom>
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:05 PM
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6. doubles is definately not a racist
n/t
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doubles Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:09 PM
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13. Thank you Jumper, I was trying to add some semi light hearted humor
to the board, instead I ruffle feathers....

The thought of a racist like Strom Thurman having jungle fever is hilarious to me.

The term jungle fever is used loosely in the black community, sorry if I offended some here.
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:10 PM
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15. I'm Black and...
I don't like it one bit. If ANY Republican said this we'd have a fit and RIGHTFULLY SO.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:12 PM
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17. Oh please
Its a tough world out here and you are incensed over something so stupid/
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:13 PM
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19. How do you know a Republican didn't say it?
Just asking.
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:14 PM
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22. What is your opinion of affirmative action?
Your view on that issue is held by a very small number of African-Americans...
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:13 PM
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18. Anytime
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 11:13 PM by _Jumper_
:)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:21 PM
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24. I wasn't accusing him/her of such, it's just that even lightnearted
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 11:23 PM by nothingshocksmeanymo
humor translates poorly on message boards sometimes.


As far as the answer to the question is concerned, I am sure the woman was conflicted in many ways. No matter how vile he appeared to us, he was her father and she had to come to grips with that. She owes us no explanation for how she dealt with it...it was how she dealt with it.

On edit: and thanks to Doubles for the edit.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:01 PM
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2. hypocrisy seems such a simple description for Strom Thurmond nt
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:01 PM
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4. Thurmond's entire career was built on racism
If the truth about his daughter was revealed he would have been destroyed, at least if it was revealed prior to when he went "mainstream", and since he was very powerful he could have exacted significant retribution against her. She feared for her safety IMO.
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ACK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:03 PM
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5. God I hate the term "jungle fever" ... ugh...
She waited out of respect to her horrible father.

He is dead now and the reporters still kept coming after her.

Now she wants some closure and recognition.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:06 PM
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8. My god I would edit that jungle thing.
It's very racist. I'm hoping you just weren't thinking and didn't mean it. On the other hand maybe Thurmond's daughter had KKK fever and preferred to keep her head intact on her shoulders. Think about it.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:06 PM
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9. He Saw, He Raped, He Came n/t
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:08 PM
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10. just being your typical patriarchial slave-owner type
slaveowners often engaged in exactly this sort of thing.

As we now know from the descendents of Sally Hemmings etc. etc. etc.
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:08 PM
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11. If ANYONE saw this same post at Free Republic
We would be aghast. Just because someone says "Doubles" is not a racist doesn't mean "Doubles" has a free pass to post such trash.

Jungle Fever! UGH. :mad:
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_Jumper_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:10 PM
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14. Doubles has one of the best records here on race
Doubles and I were the only ones who were crusading to get people to realize we need a more meritocratic system of picking candidates around the time of the LA gubernatorial election. Few people even read our threads on this important issue!

Economic justice, didn't you once get in trouble for a comment you made on race? I believe it was about affirmative action.
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:13 PM
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20. Not quite
If I did, I never knew I did! Check my posts....

I have mentioned my being black and really NOT LIKING Al Sharpton. Does that count me as someone who would "get in trouble"???

Also, honestly, it should NOT be ok to say things we would take offense to if it was said by someone we disagree with. I have lomg been angry at friends who use the N word...I don't care if you're black, white or green...it's not right.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:18 PM
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23. how do we know youre not a racist?
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:25 PM
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26. I don't know ksec.....how do we know YOU'RE not?
What an ignorant question.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:27 PM
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27. Im not the one screaming it and using accusatory language
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:31 PM
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29. I wasn't saying anybody was a RACIST!
I said it's WRONG to use racist language even if we are "joking around"......I don't think Doubles is a racist! My question originally was what if someone at Free Republic posted this with the "Jungle Fever" subject line? Would YOU not be outraged? If not, something is wrong. If you're saying it would be wrong there, but right here....that is worse. Using racist language is wrong EVERYWHERE and ALL THE TIME. but again, I reacted to the subject line (which has since been edited) NOT to Doubles personally. It was questioning judgment, not their real feelings.
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:34 PM
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30. whatever
I cant stand people who jump the gun and start whining about something so stupid, like someone is a racist, and you and a few others did.
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:37 PM
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31. AND...I can't stand
I can't stand people who think talking about a white man and a black woman having sex and using language like "Jungle Fever" is somehow appropriate! What does that say about YOU, KSEC???

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:40 PM
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32. Deleted message
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:42 PM
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33. For calling you on defending "Jungle fever"???? Whatever! <eom>
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doubles Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:12 PM
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16. The term jungle fever is used loosely in the black community.....
Edited on Wed Dec-17-03 11:14 PM by doubles
at least where I am from, sorry if I offended some here.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:14 PM
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21. So is the N word, but that doesn't mean everyone can use it.
Look where the N word got Mark Fuhrman in the OJ trial.
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doubles Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:23 PM
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25. He got a job on FAUX news, Hannity and Colmes....nt
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:28 PM
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28. Yes, he did and that isn't a great career move IMHO.
It should point out how conservative and insular Fox is. They also have Ollie North I believe too.
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doubles Donating Member (357 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:49 PM
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34. MODS, PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD!!!!
My bad!
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-03 11:53 PM
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35. My apologies
I was not familiar with your posts, was not accusing you of racism, but it is hard to tell who is saying something because it may be common vernacular and who is saying something INTENDED to be a racial slur.

Unfortunately, for two people, the thread became about the title.
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