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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:20 AM
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TIME's POTY: The American Soldier
Edited on Sun Dec-21-03 08:21 AM by drdon326
no matter what your view, i think great choice.

:toast:
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muchacho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:25 AM
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1. we'll see
Yeah, It'll be interesting to read the story and see if it's level-headed or patriotic tripe.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:31 AM
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3. i like it
it's about who's really doing the work in iraq, i.e.: not *.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 12:45 PM
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26. I agree with this choice
I hope the article references the great sacrifices made by the families of these soldiers. I was a GI brat and know well what a military life means.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:30 AM
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2. Not a Kurdish soldier?
Bah Dum Dum.
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:35 AM
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4. Only soldiers?
how about Marines, Sailors, and Airmen? Aren't they in Iraq too?
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:43 AM
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5. Good choice.............
Edited on Sun Dec-21-03 08:43 AM by DumpGump
these pawns of Bush should be commended for their bravery even if it is misguided by our current administration. If they'd have given it to Bush I'd have made it my personal goal to gather and burn evrey copy of Time magazine I could get my hands on. Here's to our armed forces. :toast:
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:45 AM
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6. Point is
A soldier is a member of the US Army. What about Marines, Sailors, and Airmen? They are serving too.
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:57 AM
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9. I said "armed forces"............
Edited on Sun Dec-21-03 08:57 AM by DumpGump
that is all inclusive. Complain to Time magazine, not me. :shrug:
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:58 AM
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10. I think...
the word "soldier" includes ALL branches of the
military.
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TrueAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:09 AM
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11. Some people do think that
A soldier is someone who serves in the Army. An airman is someone who serves in the Air Force. A sailor is someone who serves in the Navy. And a marine is someone who serves in the Marines.
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bearfartinthewoods Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:25 AM
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12. i think that's the reason they came up with the more generic term
troops..
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Devil Dog Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 11:04 AM
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22. Marines are NOT soldiers
Nor are sailors, airmen, or Coastguardsmen.

In the U.S., a soldier is a term meant to designate a member of the U.S. Army.

Period.
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AG78 Donating Member (840 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:47 AM
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7. Can't really argue with it
Just wish they, as with every soldier ever, anywhere, wasn't fighting and dying for someone else's power grab.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 08:48 AM
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8. ok, but
what happened to the American peace activist? Not even considered?
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 10:26 AM
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20. the people who worked tirelessly
trying to SAVE lives? I am not dissing the soldiers at all, but remember many of us were accused of treason, ridiculed arrested, roughed up and ignored supporting the troops by trying to keep them from being used as mercenaries for the PNAC war profiteers. Countless people worked tirelessly to prevent the deaths of thousands of human beings. But of course, since TIME was part of the effort to marganalise, belittle and ignore peace loving Americans and for that matter peace loving people all over the planet who came together to try to prevent a war for the first time in history, TIME can't be expected to acknowledge these millions of people.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:27 AM
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13. Great choice
:)
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:59 AM
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15. Agree
i'm just glad it wasnt *
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:42 AM
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14. I do think it should be who makes the news and not the feel right thing.
Didn't they put some American on cover when we all knew it should have been bin Ladin? (my God I can not get the sp right)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 10:07 AM
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18. yeah they picked Rudy G
Maybe the person of the Decade should be the crowd pleasing editorial board.
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 10:02 AM
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16. Beautiful choice!
And absolutely fitting!

The military are the only ones who have been asked to sacrifice and they should be honored.

Meanwhile, back home all we are asked to do is consume, consume, consume! No mention of public service, no mention of energy conservation.
Has the American public ever been asked for so little at a time of war?

So I say "hooray" Time Magazine and thank you for not putting Junior on your cover!
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 10:05 AM
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17. should have been Blair and Chirac
or just blair maybe
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 10:14 AM
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19. While this choice isn't bad, it would have been nice
if they had chosen the person (or people) who had the most impact on the news of the year (which is Time's own criterion).

It should have been Saddam. Just like it should have been Osama Bin Laden in 2001, but they wimped out and chose Guliani (again, a reasonable choice -- and not Bush -- but not the correct one).

If not for Osama in 2001, and Saddam today, the soldiers and Guliani would be working in relative quiet.

While the soldiers are much deserving of praise, the Person of the Year is not supposed to be an honor.
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 10:30 AM
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21. Good point
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 11:09 AM
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23. Agree, Doctor!
The men and women in the service of our country are the reason we are free. They sacrifice to protect us from enemies foreign and domestiic. They have my eternal thanks!
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drdon326 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 11:52 AM
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24. ditto.
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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 12:35 PM
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25. So in 1944
Assuming Time was around then, some people would have no problem with Time making the German army 'Person of the Year'.

After all they were only innocently following orders of the corrupt Nazi regieme.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 01:41 PM
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27. What About "Coalition Forces" - Chopped Liver
this should spread more joy to what few allies we have left.
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