Repukes in Congress rumbling about a DRAFT after the election

GREETINGS! HERE IS MORE PROOF BUSH IS GOING TO REACTIVATE THE DRAFT IN 2005. NOW THE REPUKES IN CONGRESS KNOW SOMETHING YOU DON'T!

http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpkee223594883dec22,0,6735184.story?coll=ny-viewpoints-headlines

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The Selective Service System - the civilian agency that registers men when they turn 18 for a possible future draft - had nothing to do with this announcement. But it did get a lot of applications for draft board membership as a result. (Hint: Opponents of war are also eligible to sit on these boards.) When the appeal created a flurry of stories, the Pentagon quickly took it off the Web.

At the time, an organization vitally interested in the draft, the Center on Conscience and War, got a flood of anxious e-mails and calls. The center's executive director, J. E. McNeil, did not see the incident as evidence of movement toward the draft. But in recent weeks, she has heard of rumblings, from the Republican side of the aisle in Congress, about a draft after the election.

In a perfect world, the Pentagon would reject a draft. It likes its soldiers willing and malleable, not angry and cynical. But the current situation is far from perfect. Despite the capture of Saddam Hussein, young Americans are likely to keep dying in Iraq. Reserve and National Guard troops have been deployed far longer than they expected. This may soon start to erode enlistment and re-enlistment rates. At the same time, Bush's reckless preventive-war strategy could commit further troops to battles in other countries.

If Bush's policy keeps demanding more and more troops, and the supply of volunteers dwindles, it only takes a simple act of Congress to start the draft. That would be a profoundly bad idea.

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And of course, discussion of that simple obvious fact in Corporate TV Pravda will be VERBOTEN.

There are many things which cannot be discussed on Corporate TV Pravda in Imperial Amerika. Corporate TV Pravda fears the wrath of the Party-Loyal Sub-Media.

It would be political suicide for anyone who voted for it. Any Senator or Rep who votes for a draft bill will not be getting their job back come their re-election.

That's not saying it's not going to happen, though. :scared:

The more income your family has the better chance that you will be drafted. Children, grandchildren and siblings children and grandchildren of members of congress will go first. Stepchildren of cold hearted morons with microphones get head of the line privileges. Political pundits who never served in the Military will hand over their offspring posthaste. All of the above will go through excellerated basic training and then sent to Iraq. No medical deferements, no college deferments. No chance to be an officer at a stateside post.

1. There will be another terror attack

2. Bush will steal another election and claim it's a mandate

THEN there will be a draft...

We have got to rid ourselves of this little tyrant! He'll be the death of us all.
I agree with London's mayor who called him the greatest threat to life on this planet...it's all too true.

1) there will be another terror attack and

2) Bush will declare matial law, suspend the next election, and rule by military dictatorship. He's already stated that this would be a much easier country to lead if it were a dictatorship and he was the dictator.

That last part, in case you don't already know, is a direct quote:

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/linkscopy/dictatorTime.html

CNN: GW Bush says, "I'm the dictator."

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
--President-Elect George W. Bush, CNN News, Aired December 18, 2000 - 12:00 p.m. ET
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0012/18/nd.01.html

A personal source of information who has domestic military ties tells me that this newest terror threat is the real deal, ala 9/11. (s)he also says that we'd best be prepared for a major disaster, individually, if and when it happens, which should be right around/after the first of the year. I'm told bio agents are likely already here.

I'm sorry- I can't say more or I would. Other than, I hope all of us have a safe place to go.

Make Bush and the republicans take a stand on it now, one way or the other. That way it either handcuffs him to not do it, which is a good thing, or he comes out in support of it or leaves the door open to it later (still supporting it), or he does not support it and then looks like a liar when it is enacted.

Legislation to reinstate the draft was submitted to Congress in early 1993 by Chuck Rangel. Our own party has put this crap in motion!

the Repukes will be in a big minority, their whines will just bounce off the filibuster-proof Democratic majority and flatly rejected. The only draft they will accept is the chickenhawk draft -- meaning Republicans who lied on their VN draft will need to serve in Iraq and get blown up.

Hawkeye-X

I just forwarded this to the clark04 web site. ALL of the Democratic candidates need to address this Issue NOW! As well as the Democratic members of congress.....

I would love to be sitting in a future College Young Republicans meetings asthey are gathered around the TV in eager anticipation to see the most fabulous President in history, George W Bush, give his state of the union address. The audience falls silent as he explains: "...and that is why I must reluctantly ask the Congress to reinstate the military draft next year...." A lot of these young punks dreaming of future 401k's and the stock market might instead find themselves facing National Guard trucks during anti-draft demonstrations.

A lot of these young punks dreaming of future 401k's and the stock market might instead find themselves facing National Guard trucks during anti-draft demonstrations.

Yes there will be those who do that. But the majority of "punks" will go and fight, maybe with reservations, but they will fight. I don't rule out the draft as a possibility, and last I heard if instated, it could possibly work in reverse in terms of age. Instead of eighteen working it's way up too twenty-five, it would work it's way down too eighteen from twenty-five, which would put me right in the crosshairs.

If the draft is necessary, then it is necessary...but I highly doubt that will be the case. People seem too be forgetting that a plan for troop withdrawl in Iraq has been stated for some time now, I believe July of '04 is the shoot for date. Even if a complete withdrawl is not accomplished by this time, I would imagine that a significant lowering of the level of troops will have occured.

Another attack on our soil would not likely bring about the same type of response as the previous. At the moment, we are doing everything possible in the realms of reality too dissuade terrorist attacks inside the U.S., and another foreign engagement without a primary target would not likely be beneficial. Retaliation at that point, dependent of course on the severity of the attack, would likely come in the form of long distance strikes against potential hostile targets, until which time a better plan of action can be decided.

America and her allies interests are best served at the moment by ensuring stability in currently engaged countries, and working too better those environments. This piece by piece strategem can be effective in my opinion if it is not hurried, though of course each situation is unique and may require a rethinking of that policy.

But forget the draft. While never ruled out, it is highly unlikely it will be used. If it is ever used, I think that being drafted will be the least of your concerns, because some really bad s*(& is probably going down.

eom

As I stated in another thread, Bush is a draft dodger, this wasn't an issue during the 2000 election. But if we reactivate the draft for another Banana Republic war, then it will be.

Bush lacks the political capital to reactivate the draft. How can a draft dodger summon the moral authority to call young men to service?

The military knows this, shortly after 9/11 the military presented Bush with a list of options, reactivating the draft wasn't one of them.

It may be possible that given the massive exodous of National Guard, Reservists and Active Duty personnel from the military in the very near future, that our troop levels will drop dangerously low. If there is a draft to make up this shortfall, sending these guys off to war will be the Republicans worst nightmare.

well after their plan of reselecting the moran in chief*. The press will gladly ignore this little pesky draft issue for chimpass*. It is up to the Democratic candidates to point out the issue and scare the crap out of the muricans.....

Due to the double deployment ban, in March 2005, they run out of the Marines, Band members, Reserves and Guard they are rotating in now . Bush then goes to Congress and then says Volunteer Army never intended to serve in war and he needs the draft. Then he does ask for double deployment of 3rd ID till September 2005, when the first draftees will be ready. This is the reality. There are no other Army troops for deployment.

This whole draft thing is predicated on us having to fight a war in Iraq and more wars somewhere else.

There is no need for us to go to war therefore there is no need for a draft.

Young people better start getting involved in this election and work against Bush if they want to keep their asses out of the draft. Also nurses and doctors.

People need to bring this out in the open.

Many people remember the Vietnam War draft, and for the ones 35 or younger (like me), they have parents that remember it well.

This is an issue that needs to be brought out!

Mentions the draft and our troops being overstretched in new ad...on Judy Woodhead's show...(See the ad at his site.)

'Nuf said. GO, DENNIS. People can't say they didn't know.

We'll be looking at a minimum of 10 years of war somewhere.

Once man power is free, we'll be everywhere in the MidEast.

Literally.

Keep wishin and talkin and dreaming but we aren't going to be protesting any draft. They are too smart to go that route again.
Besides, the military's just too damn good to draft the unwilling.

When there's a draft.

how many kids did you kill today!!