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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 02:14 PM
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Bush and Rove want to "de-personalize" the election....
According to a newspaper story this AM on C-SPAN, they want to talk about positive things, like more taxcuts and laxing immigration policies, etc. Yeah, sure.

We won't say anything personal about Dubya. And they won't say anything personal about the Democratic candidate. Yeah, right.

We won't tell the truth about this destructive moron. We won't tell the people about the lies and illegal wars. We won't tell them about his "secrets" that must be kept hidden from the people about 9/11. We will just keep the debate about warm and fuzzy issues, like taxcuts and what a great job our military has done in Afghanistan and Iraq and how we are all united in defeating this scourge of terrorism that has overwhelmed America like the plague.

We won't tell the people how he was asleep at the wheel and did not uphold his oath to protect this nation - that he would rather blame it on Bill Clinton. We won't tell the people how he spent a $269 billion dollar surplus and is now charging over $400 billion a year to our national credit card. We won't say anything about the net loss of jobs during his Administration. We won't say anything about the damage he has done to the American psyche with his paranoia and his arrogance. We won't say anything about how he ignored the UN to take us into a pre-emptive war based on lies and distortions. We won't say anything about how he has destroyed our good name and reputation around the world. We will just talk about the progress we are making now that we have captured Saddam Hussein.

Yes, we must "de-personalize" this election. We need to change the way politics is done in Washington. There is just too much character assassination and political power plays. We need to be more civil and less angry. After all, we are all Americans before we are Democrats or Republicans. <sarcasm off>
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wanderingbear Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 02:15 PM
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1. More like they want to control whats said this election..
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Torrey Pines Donating Member (147 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 02:19 PM
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2. Exactly
I wonder if McCain could help by reminding us of his experience in South Carolina.
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:37 PM
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10. McCain would have been so much better than Bu$h.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 02:38 PM
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3. If they stop lying about us, we will stop telling the truth about them?
Edited on Fri Dec-26-03 02:40 PM by kentuck
Is that their request?

on edit:
I wonder how many Democrats will fall for his little trick? We will slice you to bits and stomp you in the face but, just before the election, we will pretend to be civil and "moderate"?
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:09 PM
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5. You can take that one to the bank
ANyone who has watched smirky the chimp in action knows that he performs a dramatic metamorphosis into a "moderate" during election years. Hell, if he ran on what he really thought and did, he'd be political poison! He'll give a nod and a wink to his base (wackos) and pretend real hard to be a moderate -- and people, who sadly are very stupid and seemingly getting stupider all the time -- fall for it.

He *has* to do this. He has to pretend that he is not the most radical president in American history, and one of the most extremist world leaders! His job next year is to smile nice and stay calm while Howard Dean or Wesley Clark confront him with his actual record. The truth is -- his record is so bizarre and extremist that when the actual facts are laid out, the bearer of the truth looks like he or she is the nut -- NOT the smirking fratboy! I'd say that's a pretty clever little trick Mr Rove taught his pet monkey! Like it or not, that is a very potent strategy, and we better be ready for it.


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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:22 PM
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6. You have captured their strategy to a "T"...
That is exactly their plan.
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ScrewyRabbit Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 02:52 PM
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4. Of course, they have right-wing radio to do their dirty work
Limpballs and the rest of the Clear Channel jockeys will wage the relentless smear campaigns against the Democrats.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:23 PM
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7. Bush* always has others get their hands dirty destroying his enemies
...so he can act innocent and pretend that such things are beneath him.

- Of course they don't want the Democrats to use the same tactics they use as SOP. They want Dems to just sit back and take it as they're demonized by RWing talking heads and in the 'mainstream' media.

- Democrats aren't suppose to fight back. Let's disappoint them.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:28 PM
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8. Q, I wish everyone knew Bush as well as you do.
He does like to get other people to do his dirty work as he pretends to be above the fray. I suspect this campaign will be no different.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:44 PM
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11. "A Uniter, not a Divider"
Remember that one?

If you're SANE, you interpret it reasonably as "We have a free marketplace of ideas, and as leaders, we sort out our differences, work out a compromise, and then dedicate ourselves to implementing it for the greater good."

But if you're INSANE, it means "You will obey!" or "Kiss my jackboot, sissyboys!"

With one soundbite, he communicated a contradictory message to two completely different audiences! We can expect more of the same.

Gee -- even when we confine ourselves to calmly outlining smirky's actual record, we are accused of "Hate Speech!" Yes -- they will push the country into civil war before they will relinquish an iota of their power.




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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:36 PM
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9. Never trust a word out of a neo-cons mouth. Just play hard ball
and try to hit him when you strike. Rove is a stalin like psychpath and has no conscience, no morals, and is not really human, and probably has no soul.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:55 PM
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12. the dems are re-personalizing it
I'm hearing a lot of attacks against the most unpopular Bushies like Ashcroft and Delay.

It's trickier to go after Bush himself, but I think Clark has a clever strategy. He acknowledged that people like Bush, but explained it in terms of his fight against alcoholism. He also brought up the drinking when asked about religion in politics.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 04:16 PM
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13. Yes, it is effective to use a soft sledge hammer...
:) Clark is good at that. I wish we were better at that as a Party.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 04:23 PM
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14. A Truman quote seems appropriate here
"I never did give anybody hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell."
-- Harry Truman
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