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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 11:55 AM
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In the closet republican gays
Just this weekend I found out that a staunch repug who presented himself as a macho manly guy is actually an in the closet gay. Is this why some of them are so viscious because they have secrets they are hiding and are afraid of being found out?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 11:57 AM
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1. In a word. YES.
The ones most against homosexuality are the ones most likely to be in the closet.
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flattop Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:11 PM
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4. Holy crap!
Does that mean the Pope is really gay?
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:12 PM
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9. nope
but if the Pope advocated beating gays in the street, perhaps he would be a homophobe. He loves the sinner (not homophobic).
My cousin was an Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve Conservative. Now he is a Kucinich supporting fag. Once he outed himself, he allowed himself not to hate, himself and everyone else.
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:52 PM
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23. yes, and great avatar - go falcons (next year)
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:03 PM
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2. If you can find it, there was great expose ' written by a Republican
It was a magazine article titled "Closets of Power" I believe it was published sometime during the 80's. The author was a Capitol Hill employee. I don't remember the magazine, though I believe it was Harpers. Anyway, this was one of the most informative discussions of the number of gays in positions of power througout the US government. These men and women have contributed greatly to our society and continue to do so. Too bad the hypocrisy and self-righteous conservatives wield the kind of hate and power that forces them to remain in the closet. But, they know who they are and I say there is good and bad within any group. This group certainly has its share of evil but they also have a group of great humanitarians, scientists, and members of the arts. No civilization's history could claim advancements without them. They are among the greatest thinkers and leaders of all time.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:58 PM
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21. I knew a repub who worked for Regan's cabinet
he was a closet flamer who left his family after 20 years. He was misleading them the whole time. I don't think he even communicates with his son anymore.

My sociology book in college said this was not unusual for people of power to use their public image as a way to hide something else.
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:03 PM
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3. I know a few gay Republicans.
The ones I know are wealthy, selfish, twisted individuals. There's no way in hell I'd ever go out with a gay Republican.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:17 PM
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11. So you know Andrew Sullivan?
n/t
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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:33 PM
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13. LOL!
That did sound like him, didn't it? I guess that goes to show you that people like that are a dime a dozen.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:20 PM
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12. I encounter them quite often in gay chat rooms.
I can pretty much expect to get hit with right wing talking points if I start in on Bush or the GOP in a gay chat room.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:57 PM
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20. lol yeah youve told me
I have my hunches about the secret lives of our GOP buddies lol. nudge nudge :hi: Jonny. Sorry you get hit on by wingnuts, Catholic school girls tend to like me lol.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:19 PM
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5. ok, how did you find out he's gay :)
n/t
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dfong63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:49 PM
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6. self deletion
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 12:50 PM by dfong63
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:50 PM
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7. I found out from my brother
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 12:53 PM by candy331
who works with many repugs. How he found out I don't know but it is now public knowlege. Of course you know that more and more people feel that they can come out the closet now and some are outed by their partners. I don't have a problem with anyone's life style it is the hypocrisy and hate spewing that is bothersome.

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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:01 PM
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8. I would out any Republican
who "hated" gays and was one. If he didn't say anything, it's different
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:21 PM
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10. but not Smithers
He is a log cabin republican. Burnsie doesn't know, although he has a clue.
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:02 PM
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14. Texas Legislature, anybody?
The largest room at the capitol is the Repug closet.
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wanderingbear Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:07 PM
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15. Yes.. They live on their secrets and lies..
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:09 PM
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16. I have several gay repub friends
Almost all are out. Most are fiscal conservatives and moderate to liberal socially. I have one gay friend who is very very conservative... even socially. He is even against gay marriage/domestic parnter/civil union laws.
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Bush loves Jiang Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:12 PM
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17. What's his excuse?
Mental freeptardation?
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:29 PM
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18. My cousin was a gay Republican.
I never understood his politics, except that his parents were Republican and he was raised as one. I guess it is one thing he could be "normal" with, in his way of thinking.
(I mean he could be like his folks that way, by being Republican).

I would love to talk to him about politics, and wish he were here today so I could. Sadly, he died of AIDS in 1993 after nursing his lover through a prolonged bout of AIDS.

He was not in poltics. He was a musician. His lover was involved in opera. I just never understood how he could be a Republican.
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Brian_Expat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:53 PM
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19. Gay Republicans are a riot
There's a big-wig black gay Repug in Massachusetts named Abner Mason. He loves to talk about how open and tolerant the GOP is -- yeah, in MASSACHUSETTS, where they have to be (and where the GOP candidate for House a few years ago supported gay marriage). The thing is, he's from South Carolina, and he used to get enraged when I invited him to take his black gay self to South Carolina's GOP and see how "accepted" he was there -- or in Virginia, New York, North Carolina, Georgia, Indiana, etc. ;)
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:50 PM
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22. George W and Victor Ashe
have been carrying on since the were cheerleading, skull brother roomies at yale.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:18 PM
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24. You bet. It's the same with chickenhawks.
Closeted gay men can obviously avoid some of the stigma associated with being closeted gay men by hiding out in the Republican party. Even single men who are just bashful or in some way perverted have a strong reason to be showy Republicans.

It works the same way with chickenhawks. If you are a chickenhawk or other form of yellow hypocrit, you can avoid stigma by joining the Republicans and rooting for war.

It's funny and pathetic that these guys think the GOP is good camo. In fact, it's just the opposite. A single man in his thirties who is a showy Republican practically has a sign painted on his back saying "I'm gay." Even if he isn't.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:22 PM
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25. It's the Jeff Christie syndrome n/t
n/t
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:29 PM
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26. of course
I can't imagine the kind of self-loathing one would have to engage in to be a gay Republican - especially one in office. We have a number of them here in NH. The Democrats may be the party of the Big Tent, but the Republicans are the party of the Big Closet.
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