BBV: Washington DUer's I am not a programmer....

and I don't play one on TV. It does seem ironic that a "cryptography" company cannot secure it's own network. It is unfortunate that their system was "hacked" and I would never advocate for this type of action. But, it does demonstarate how vigilant we must be in the care of our vote.

I would hope that since Vote Here has admitted there is a problem with their "cryptography", they would recall any and all products from the market. If the security of that system has been breached then "Houston, we have a problem".

Mr Adler of Vote Here has promised to reveal his companies source code. Perhaps now is a good time Mr Adler. I am sure there are many computer experts willing to help you vet your software. As for me, I will be pushing even harder for a paper ballot. It is the only way we can really be sure that our vote is counted correctly.

VoteHere is was sued by its former engineer, Dan Spillane, for wrongfully firing him in retaliation to his repeated warnings of potential defects in voting software applications and in the certification process. Perhaps we are seeing the results of unheeded warnings.

On the Mike Webb show...Bob Terwilliger of Snohomish county admitted to having one of his programmers install a "patch" on the Sequoia/Vote Here system. Was this patch certified? Was it part of the files lost to a "hacker"? We should be demanding an audit in this state immediately to determine exactly how big the problem is.

...it should be a cryptography company. Unless there is some arcane reason they do NOT want to secure it.

I am certain you have already figured that one out for yourself.

perhaps to allow someone to enter and change votes. But they wouldn't do that...would they?

Or would they, if it was to the advantage of someone they wanted to win...and to whom they had donated $$$$????

using the language used in this article.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/aplocal_story.asp?category=6420&slug=Internet%20voting

most companies don't like to talk about it... especially if they are a 'security' company.

i don't know the background on this story well but my initial reaction is that a 'security' company getting cracked is not outside the realm of possibility and since there are no good stats on these things - corporations getting cracked - it is really hard to say.

remember locks are only for honest folks and they can ALL be gotton around and there is no defense against insecure passwords or even secure ones once they fall in the wrong hands.

anyways, glad to hear that you are still fighting the good fight :toast:

peace

Having ANYTHING to do with security automatically makes you a target. EVERYONE gets hacked, despite the best of measures. I'm truly sorry this happened to these guys, better for them to have a wakeup call now than during an election.

Should they have had better security? Yes. But then so should every other company that is compromised or hit by a virus/Trojan horse/worm.

"voting" thing is a transparent (but VERY unfunny) joke. Wasn't the method also chosen as Fortune magazines worst technology of 2003. Why is it that so many election officials seem so beholden to the frighteningly rightwing companies that make them rather than the People they are supposed to be working for. I just don't get it.

Who is this hacker, "El Barto"?

On the Mike Webb show...Bob Terwilliger of Snohomish county admitted to having one of his programmers install a "patch" on the Sequoia/Vote Here system. Was this patch certified? Was it part of the files lost to a "hacker"? We should be demanding an audit in this state immediately to determine exactly how big the problem is.

:hi: Sorry, just being :silly: