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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 04:55 PM
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Bushies say if they ask nicely other countries will send troops to Iraq
I watch with amazement as the Bush administration tries to justify going to war with Iraq...All this bullshit explaining the ongoing violence and why they haven't been able to contain it....I just heard another one on CNN say "we have to do a better job of persuading other countries to send troops" to help out....As if it is a given, that there was a just reason to attack Iraq and the U.S.A. just has to make the dumb Europeans (and Canadians) understand it and they'll send troops!...The Bushies and the U.S.A media seem to refuse to accept that other than their "coalition of the willing", the rest of the world does not consider this war legitimate!.....When this is all over, will you Americans be able to believe your media again....at least not for a while I would imagine?....I can't help but wonder where this will all end....

P.S....I tried to post this a while ago and couldn't post....Hope it's working now....
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 04:59 PM
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1. Isn't that pretty much what all the Democratic candidates say?

There seems to be a bipartisan consensus that having war crimes committed by crusaders from a variety of nations will somehow make them less despicable.

However, 9 out of 10 Iraqis surveyed indicated "strongly disagree" when asked if they felt that this would cause their murdered family members to be less dead.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 07:58 PM
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11. You have hit upon a very important point
It would not seem to matter where the crusading infidels come from: whether england, France, canada....

The dems have IMHO a "gotta fix this thing" attitude alarmingly reminiscent of Vietnam. We need to get our greasy mitts out of the M.E.

It'll only get worse while the West is there.

What a huge screw up this invasion was/is.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 08:46 PM
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15. Well, some advocate help from SA, Syria, Egypt, etc. to come in
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 08:47 PM by jpgray
Under the auspices of the UN, an Arab/Persian/Egyptian peacekeeping force would be much more amenable to Iraqis. Of couse, their own rule and police would be even better. But to allow them to fairly choose a leader is impossible when a) we are there running things or b) the country is in chaos. Some strongman will just take power in either case and if we like him we'll call it Democracy.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 05:02 PM
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2. It is and this is a day after India said NO
ain't is amusing? They are trying to internatioanlize this since it
is breaking the force...

The rest of the world is just letting us have it...

They tried hard to warn us huh?

Seems they don't want the flowers and candy that the iraqis are
throwing at us
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 05:05 PM
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3. I haven't believed the media since Reagan fired the air
traffic controllers. I use to watch CNN for a general idea of what was going on, but after the Iraq invasion run-up, I can't even watch them anymore.

I have no heard the worlds 'illegimate war' anywhere in America except from my lips and on the internet. It will end sooner if Bush is defeated. If he is elected, he will probably invade all the rest of the Middle Eastern Oil companies. However, there is the problem of the dollar. Word has it that oil producing countries want to go to Euros. That will kill the economy (not really sure it's alive actually). Asia and Russia have a ton of dollars. If they dump they, there goes the economy. And lastly - in 10 years the production of oil will be declining. The SUV country will be in a world of hurt. I don't see much good happening here in the forseeable future. I am at my lowest point of hope in my entire life.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 07:34 PM
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10. Let Bushie go to the ME himself,
they're waiting for him..You'll see what a COWARD he is..he's already proven it by "ducking" down w/ Condi, "like a married couple"...That should say plenty.
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citizen snips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 05:07 PM
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4. They can't say anything else.
The shit they make up is unbelievable.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 05:25 PM
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5. The rest of the story...
I just heard another one on CNN say "we have to do a better job of persuading other countries to send troops" to help out....

The rest of the story is between the lines. Apparently the U.S. on its own really can't fight as effectively as the Iraqis. If we could, we'd not need anyone else's troops.

Sure, air power we've got. It's easy to bomb a place to rubble and we have the power to do it. Somehow, though, we seem to want Iraqis to see things our way and they won't if they're all dead.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 05:46 PM
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6. Actually,
I believe the unspoken policy to be, "The fewer of them the better." Depopulation is a code word for the PNAC.
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 07:32 PM
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9. They want help now...
after they've called other countries names and esp the boobs "bring em on"..He needs to be committed!
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BenZodiac Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 07:25 PM
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7. England isn't part of Europe?
England
Italy
Spain
Portugal
Ukraine

all have troops in Iraq.

I coulda sworn those were in Europe. Germany is helping us with a huge force in Afghanistan, so I cut them some slack on Iraq. What European countries are you talking about?

Australia
Thailand
Philippines
South Korea
Japan

also have troops. We are being supported (non-troops) by other allies such as Israel, Qatar, Kuwait, Bahrain, Jordan with things as port access, fly over rights, and basing.

Looks like a pretty big coalition to me. Or are you still mad that the French aren't there to teach our soldiers how to wave a white flag?

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Columbia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 08:01 PM
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12. You forgot Poland
Those Polish female soldiers sure are cute too. But then again that could be the desert goggles speaking...
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 08:33 PM
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13. Jesusfuckingchrst, another Francophobe...
http://quickstart.clari.net/qs_se/webnews/wed/bf/Qiraq-coalition-facts.ROmz_DS7.html

BAGHDAD, Sept 7 (AFP) - The following is a breakdown by country of the 156, 576 military and police personnel so far committed to the 34-nation US-led coalition:
NewsVantage – All the views of all the news!

1. United States: 130,000

2. Britain: 10,620

3. Italy: 3,000

4. Poland: 2,350

5. Ukraine: 1,650

6. Spain: 1,254

7. Netherlands: 1,100

8. Australia: 800

9. Slovakia: 800

10. Romania: 700

11. Bulgaria: 500

12. Thailand: 443

13. Denmark: 420

14. Czech Republic: 400

15. Honduras: 368

16. El Salvador: 361

17. Dominican Republic: 302

18. Norway: 179

19. Mongolia: 160

20. Azerbaijan: 150

21. Hungary: 140

22. Portugal: 120

23. Nicaragua: 113

24. Latvia: 100

25. Philippines: 80

26. Albania: 70

27. Georgia: 70

28. New Zealand: 61

29. Croatia: 60

30. Lithuania: 50

31. Moldova: 50

32. Estonia: 43

33. Macedonia: 37

34. Kazakhstan: 25

Total: 156,576

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 08:38 PM
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14. Infidels from many principalities to aid in the Oil Jacking
One would call them mercenaries in times when there was a free and independent media.

My new bumper sticker, btw:

'FRANCE WAS RIGHT'
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 09:49 PM
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16. Canada has troops in Afghanistan too...more than Germany actually
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 10:30 PM by glarius
so perhaps you can cut us some slack on Iraq too???...Of course you don't hear that from your American media...We (Canada) were with you on Afghanistan from the beginning....A legitimate war on terror....But since we don't agree with the "moron's" attack on Iraq, we have been marginalized by the U.S.A media as well as the Bush administration....Most of the countries you mentioned as being part of the "coalition" are with the U.S.A. in Iraq, with the protestations of their citizens!....
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 07:27 PM
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8. Well DUH, all we wanted was a please
Edited on Thu Jan-01-04 07:28 PM by HEyHEY
A thank you would be nice too!
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