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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:48 PM
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Slots for minorities other than HHS and Education now!
Here we go again. A bunch of white guys trying to claim there's no place on the Dem ticket other than HHS or Education for African0-Americans.

Has ANYONE continued to develop their resume from HHS or Education other than Jack Kemp?

No. HHS/Education has now become the token minority cabinet seats. It embarrassing and we need to eveolve. NOW.

Every election is supposedly too important to find real leadership positions for African-Americans. It's being said again this election too. Enough is enough.
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poopyjr Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:51 PM
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1. I don't know, but I hope we have an opportunity to nominate Alan Page
to the US Supreme Court. Or at least a higher circuit court.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:03 PM
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3. I think he's on a lot of lists for Supreme Court.
Great legal mind. Sorry Minnesota, but consider Alan Page stolen at the first opportunity.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:54 PM
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2. Do you have a link?
Edited on Sun Jan-04-04 06:59 PM by dralston
I must have missed the thread about this.

Thanks.

On edit:

Nevermind. I found it.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:14 PM
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4. I know he's a Republican...
but Colin Powell is the Secretary of State.

Are there any major movers and shakers among the Democratic party that are black? There's Carol Moseley Braun, of course, who definitely ought to be considered for the cabinet (to what department, though, I don't know; she does have experience in agriculture, but that position's not much more prestigious than HHS or Education).
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:25 PM
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6. Lovely...Agriculture... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
Have you EVER heard of a Sec'y of Agriculture do anything else?

And what is a woman from inner city Chicago supposed to do with farm policy?
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:42 PM
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8. Again, you are misinformed.
CMB is the self-proclaimed "Ethanol Queen" who represented farmers from Illinois during her time in the US Senate. Her education prepared her to understand many things she may not have experienced first-hand.

Agriculture is an important position.

Why are you carrying on this dialogue in two different threads?

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poopyjr Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:44 PM
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10. I like CMB as press secretary or chief of staff
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:51 PM
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11. Besides...
if she became Secretary of Education, it wouldn't be a token position. According to her website she worked with the Dept of Education as a consultant. And she has a family farm, giving her experience in agriculture.
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leyton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:14 PM
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5. Double Post...
Edited on Sun Jan-04-04 07:14 PM by leyton
Schmouble Post
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:34 PM
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7. Meet Dr. Susan Rice :)


Dr. Susan Rice bio...

Dr. Rice is currently a Senior Fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington, D.C. At Brookings, Dr. Rice is affiliated jointly with the Foreign Policy and Governance Studies Programs where she is examining the national security implications of global poverty and inequality, transnational security threats, new strategies for corporate social responsibility investing. She also serves as an independent consultant and speaker.


Prior to this, Rice was Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs from 1997-2001. In this capacity, she formulated and implemented overall US policy towards 48 countries of Sub-Saharan Africa, including political, economic, security and humanitarian issues. She oversaw management of 43 US Embassies, over 5000 U.S. and Foreign Service national employees, a Bureau operating budget of over $100 million and a program budget of approximately $160 million, annually.


From 1995-1997, Dr. Rice also served as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director for African Affairs at the National Security Council (NSC) and, from 1993-1995, as Director for International Organizations and Peacekeeping at the NSC. Prior to her White House tenure, Rice was a management consultant at McKinsey and Company in Toronto, where she served clients in oil and gas, steel, transportation, retail, public/non-governmental and pulp/paper sectors.


Dr. Rice was the co-recipient of the White House’s 2000 Samuel Nelson Drew Memorial Award for distinguished contributions to the formation of peaceful, cooperative relationships between states. She was awarded the Chatham House-British International Studies Association Prize for the most distinguished doctoral dissertation in the United Kingdom in the field of International Relations. Dr. Rice is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and serves on several boards including the National Democratic Institute, the U.S. Fund for UNICEF and the Internews Corporation.


Rice received B.A. in History from Stanford and an M.Phil. from Oxford, where she was a Rhodes Scholar. She also received a D.Phil. (Ph.D) in International Relations from Oxford. She is married to Ian Cameron and has two children.

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pasadenaboy Donating Member (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:43 PM
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9. Let me know who you recommend for specific posts
I think everyone deserves a fair shot, but you need to come up with specific candidates. If you are just looking at filling slots, you end up with people like Clarence Thomas.
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 08:00 PM
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13. We'll start with...Susan Rice or CMB - UN Ambassador
Edited on Sun Jan-04-04 08:03 PM by mouse7
Clearly neither would be a diplomatic version of Thomas.

CMB served under Clinton as Ambassador to New Zealand after she lost Senate seat. Rice resume is posted above.

This would be in order for the person who received the post to be groomed for Sec'y of State.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:07 PM
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14. Thank you.
A agree with you about both. I am one of unfortunately many who knew essentially nothing about Susan Rice. However most voters frequently are unaware of talented individuals of all races unless they have previously been prominent in Congress, held high State Office, or have already made it into a President's cabinet. That never stops a white from getting an important appointment.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:51 PM
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12. I love Andrew Young
I could see myself supporting him for any position, up to and including President. I only wish he were chronologically younger, so that more of his career lay before him. Then again, his country needed him to be around doing exactly what he was doing in his youth also.

I am another white male, just happened to be born that way I guess. I would love to see a discussion here of dynamic, well rounded African Americans, and other minority Democrats, who are fully prepared for crucial national leadership roles now. I have certainly heard of some (I'm not completely out of it), but I am not a full time political junkie, and being white, I admit that my ear isn't automatically always tuned into the most inclusive grapevines and news sources. I am confident though that those people are out there.

I would love to hear suggestions of potential minority Cabinet members, and what they would bring to the job in addition to the obvious and real benefits of racial diversity in our National leadership. I would also like to know more about the people who immediately should be appointed to Deputy Secretary positions, so as to provide them with the last level of seasoning they will need to step forward to the upper ranks two or four years into the upcoming Democratic Administration.

So, rather than posturing as being more knowledgeable than I actually am, help me out here. I know that this is important, and I fully agree with the point of your post.
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