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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:02 PM
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Poll question: How long will it take to "Finish the Job" in Iraq?
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:03 PM
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1. You forgot to offer
"Too Damn Long" as an option. ;-)

I chose 20 years.

Julie
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:55 PM
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11. I was trying to be optimistic!
:(
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:03 PM
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2. other- I'm not even sure what the "job" even IS
:shrug:
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:04 PM
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3. What job?
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:05 PM
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4. define the phrase?
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:09 PM
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7. Ask Dean, Clark, Kerry, Edwards, Gep, Lieberman, and CMB
They are the ones that want to "finish the job" - ask them what it means. I would sure as hell like to know!
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:05 PM
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5. You have to know what the 'job' is before you can finish it. n/t
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:56 PM
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15. Very perceptive...
What is "the job" when the "job description" changes?

Was it to find WMDs?
Punish Saddam for 9/11?
Liberate the Iraqi people?

Even staunch GOPers will say recite the latest "job description" when pressed to cite the reason for the Iraq invasion.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 10:04 PM
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17. What does Clark or Dean say the job description is?
I'd love to hear it, and how long they expect to take.
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Caution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:08 PM
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6. This isnt about finishing the job
It is about establishing a permanent base of military operations in a strategic location within the gulf states. Saudi Arabia was a bad place for this as was evidenced by the anger of Bin Laden (Why the hell does no one mention that we closed the bases in Saudi Arabia? This was Bin Laden's stated goal! He freakin won fer crissakes!). Kuwait is too small and strategically much less important. With a base in Iraq, the US can, at a moments notice seize the oil fields.

The US will *never* leave Iraq. There will be a permanent military base established there as soon as stability can be achieved. Once the new Democratic President is inaugerated you can bet that he/she will announce that we must stay the course in Iraq once presented with the first security briefing.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:04 AM
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25. I agree completely.
I have no doubt that US troops will be in Iraq permanently, whether we've got a Republican president or not.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:28 PM
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30. that's a problem
what's the point then?
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 03:00 PM
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31. You got me.
The only candidates that I actually believe when they talk about withdrawing from Iraq are dismissed as "fringe" or "unelectable".

But there are many other issues besides Iraq, and Bush is disastrous on all of them. I do *hope* that a Dean or a Clark would move to withdraw from Iraq ASAP, but I'm not convinced that it's the case. Just my opinion.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:45 PM
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34. sadly, I feel the same way
what to do?
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lcordero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:16 PM
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8. other
however long it takes to suck every last drop of oil from Iraq and every last penny from US taxpayers.
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demodewd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:33 PM
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9. re: the job
The job has barrely begun. :)
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:37 AM
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35. scary
what's the job again?
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:36 PM
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10. "the job"
Cannot be done, thus "other."


Cher

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:55 PM
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12. Leave? What are you talking about? We just got got there!
Years from now, people will look back on this moment and remember "US In, Us Out" and remember how other people had a "better plan". I hope they remember all the reasons they didn't heed the warning.

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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 10:56 PM
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22. Whoops! Make that UN in, US Out
!!! lol
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 01:58 AM
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23. US/UN, easy mistake to make
happens all the time
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 04:57 PM
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13. How long have we been in the Koreas?
That might give us an idea how long it'll take...

Also, did anyone catch Martin Savidge's report on the Korean DMZ on CNN last week? What a surreal place the DMZ is...
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 05:48 PM
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14. now THAT is a depressing thought!
:(
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 06:00 PM
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16. 50 year anniversary coming up
and * wants to "finish the Job" there too
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 10:06 PM
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18. The job will never be finished because America has her hooks in Iraq
now....unless we are unceremoniously tossed out on our asses.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 10:19 PM
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19. Finish the Job?? What does that mean? Siphon all the oil out?
The war was based on a fraudulent premise therefore there IS no job to finish.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 11:05 AM
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29. yes
as far as I can tell
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 10:24 PM
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20. We'll be kicked out by the insurgents
After the "Iraqization" of Iraq, as in Vietnam. I'd say about five years and 20,000 american troop deaths from now....and oh, about 100,000 maimed soldiers.
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Serenity-NOW Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 10:31 PM
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21. They left that out on newamericancentury.org
They told us we'd need a Pearl Harbor type event to get it rollin', lo and behold we got one, but then don't seem to have a timeline.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:01 AM
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24. What's the job?
that's the biggest problem.
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Serenity-NOW Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 02:06 AM
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26. 'the job' is spelled out on newamericancentrury.org > PNAC
It's about controlling resources and production globally. Why? Because if you control those you control economies, governments and populations.
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 03:05 AM
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27. Around 10
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 09:37 AM
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28. I wonder how many casualties
in those ten years?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 03:17 PM
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32. Nov 5, 2004
The "War" will end just after the election.

The "job" has already been done. I firmly believe that the "war" was started to give the DumbSon the perception of having a huge jockstrap and being "decisive" in response to 9/11. The fact that the world is less safe after the so called "war" (how can one call the defeat of a crumbling country with a 10th rate military a war?)is of no import to Bush or his lackies and his corporate advisors. The "job" has accomplished most of what it set out to do - convince most of the American people that the "war" was a just and necessary cause.

The cost of the cynical invasion and subjugation of Iraq will not end for decades. We, the American people, will be paying for this election ploy in lives and money for an unforseeable time.

As for Iraq, at some point the American occupation will end. Just fizzle out after a sufficient number of people have been killed. It is an unwinnable conflict.

The Iraqi people will eventually find themselves governed by Iraqis. What sort of Iraqis is yet to be seen.
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WhoCountsTheVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-04 04:00 PM
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33. well, that IS what Rove said
He did say before the midterm elections that if the Republicans ran on domestic issues, they would lose. The war fixed that problem.
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