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Snoggera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:44 PM
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Do the best workers usually get promoted to management?
Edited on Wed Apr-14-04 08:47 PM by Snoggera
Best meaning more creative, more ingenuity, stability, more motivation, better communication skills? Or is it something else that causes promotion at your place of employment or in your line of work?
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:45 PM
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1. Sucking up.
n/t
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:47 PM
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2. Best butt kisser
And biggest phoney gets promoted.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:47 PM
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3. Rarely. Usually it's not what you know, it's who you know.
Funny how so many cliches have a grain of truth in them.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:48 PM
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4. competence is a distinct disadvantage in my company
creativity is the kiss of death. :scared:

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Another Bill C. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:49 PM
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5. Promotions go to
good politicians who make their screwups appear to be someone else's fault.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:49 PM
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6. god, I hope not
I'm one of the best workers and I never want to be in management. Blech.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:50 PM
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7. At my place of employment, yes, they usually do
It's a worker-run cooperative, however.

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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:51 PM
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8. In the beginning of my career....
I had a boss tell me: "Cream Rises to the Top"

To which I replied: "So does Scum"

To adjust for this attitude, I had to earn myself a Doctorate in Computer Science just to earn a decent salary.
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BostonTeaParty04 Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:55 PM
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9. Nope. I never saw it done, after almost 20 years in the workforce.
Only little sycophants who make it real clear that they are willing to be the top guys' (and they ARE guys!) yard dogs.

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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 08:57 PM
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10. In my industry
you have to be 5'4" weigh 98lbs and have a name like Debby or Candy or any name ending in 'y'. No experience and no brains.
I work in a factory.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:08 PM
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11. How we promote
First you must show all of the traits Snoggera mentioned.

If you are so motivated, and you want to advance (some of our people do not, and the store manager is very careful only to advance those who want to be advanced) you then attend Department Supervisor Training. Held once per quarter, twelve potential managers are trained in the Home Depot way of management. This takes a week. Supposedly it's not a Home Depot requirement that you attend DST before becoming a DH, but no store manager in the company will make someone a DH without it.

After you graduate from DST, you are then observed to be sure you are still progressing.

If you are then deemed suitable for advancement, when a department that you can run needs a department head, you'll be placed in that position. If you're not artistically-inclined you won't become DH of the wallpaper department, for instance.

Once you serve a year as a DH and get a good review, you can become an assistant manager.

After two years as an assistant manager you can become a store manager, but to do so you'll have to be relocated at company expense. (Check this shit out: if you're relocated to become a store manager and you can't sell your old house within a year, they buy it from you.)
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Ruby Romaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:13 PM
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12. most incompetent--hey- look at the Commander in Thief!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:14 PM
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13. Brown-nosers & shit eaters.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:25 PM
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14. not where I worked...n/t
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:28 PM
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15. Connected people and Brownshirt sheep seem to be put in those spots
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:30 PM
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16. No, competence has nothing to do with it
getting promoted that is.

It has everything to do with office politicking and making it known that you are a "playa," so to speak. This is not a bad thing in and of itself, because you can be deadly competent and promotable. It's just that it isn't required. You can be competent after you get the bigger paycheck.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:31 PM
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17. No. Nepotism is much quicker. n/t
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-04 09:42 PM
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18. Turds float to the top
At least that's been my experience in both the public and private sector.
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