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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:21 PM
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Worst Film adaptation of a Book? Best?
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 10:22 PM by khephra
Worst: Stanley Kubrick's The Shining (Runner-Up on tv: The Stand. Not nearly as hard-core as it should have been.)

Best: Tie -- Fight Club/Crash
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:23 PM
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1. Worst
Bram Stoker's "Dracula" with Keanu "Dude" Reeves. Best, "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas".
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:55 PM
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26. Fear and Loathing was awful
I like Where the Buffalo Roam much better.
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chenGOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:40 AM
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50. I seriously have to disagree.
"Where the Buffalo Roam" was an ok adaptation. I like Bill Murray a lot (for example, I think he was the only redeeming thing about Lost in Translation, well him and the soundtrack, especially the Squarepusher song), but I didn't feel he was anywhere near manic enough.

"Fear and Loathing" on the other hand, had a wonderful Johhny Depp, who was getting lines fed to him through an earpiece by Hunter S. Thompson himself. "Fear and Loathing" did a much better job at catching the paranoia and creepiness of being all fucked up on drugs in a bizzarre setting like Vegas.

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TOhioLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:23 PM
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2. Do mini series count?
n/t
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:24 PM
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3. Best: To Kill A Mockingbird
Worst: Hannibal
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 04:37 AM
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39. That's true...that was a truly great adaptation...
Don't see many like that one.
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southerngirlwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:25 PM
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4. Worst: The Stand (Corin Nemec as Harold???)
:wtf:



Best: A Time to Kill

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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:26 PM
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6. Gotta disagree
The Stand is one of the best TV mini-series ever made!
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southerngirlwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:27 PM
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9. You bought Corin Nemec as Harold?
Really?

He seemed to be cast about as well as, oh, if someone cast * to be leader of the free world. LOL.

I also thought it was not nearly as gritty as it should have been, given the book's heavy subject matter.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:37 AM
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43. That's one character dude
There are lots of em in the movie. Rob Lowe as Nick Adross was great!
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:30 PM
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30. Agree totally!
The Stand was a terrible adaptation. The only roles I liked were Gary Sinese and the guy from Coach (Luther :)) wan't HORRID, but he wasn't GREAT.

M-O-O-N, that spells useless post.

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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:26 PM
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5. Best: Lord of the Rings Trilogy
Worst: Brian de Palma's 'Bonfire of the Vanities'.
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Dufaeth Donating Member (764 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:27 PM
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7. Best: Adaptation
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:28 PM
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10. George Orwell's 1984 was the worst IMO
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 10:29 PM by Gothic_Sponge
I liked the Shining.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:49 PM
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20. good choice
How the heck did that one turn out so bad -- John Hurt, Richard fucking Burton, and George Orwell -- and yet it was a pathetic dog (apologies to that noble animal, the canine).
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:27 PM
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8. Worst: The Sun Also Rises. Best: To Kill a Mockingbird; assuming
that you mean good books.

I was tempted to say Lord of the Rings, either the animated or the live one, but although I was disappointed in LOTR, worst is too strong.

And I liked Kubrick's "Shining" a lot. It was the only King film that was decent, I thought. Except "Stand By Me," but that was based on a short story, not a book. Maybe the best film based on a short story.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:30 PM
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11. Best: One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest or Mystic River
Worst: I was going to say 'Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil' but the book wasn't that good....imho.
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:30 PM
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12. My vote for Best
David Lean's Dr Zhivago.

I get goosebumps just typing that....

I finally got around to reading the book, and was astonished that I thought it was no greater than the film, or to be frank, not as magnificent, in my humble opinion. (I have read only the English translation, not the original Russki)

There was a "Masterpiece Theatre" remake some months ago, which one would think would be great, but it was a puny farce compared to Lean's magnificent achievement.

Other examples of great adaptations -- such as Kubrick's Barry Lyndon, and even the recent LOTR, and of course Lean's Lawrence of Arabia is another masterpiece.

I guess I am in too good of a mood tonight (it is my birthday and I am drunk on wine) to think of bad films. I'm sure I'll think of some in the morning.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:34 PM
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13. *ahem* Best - The Lord of the Rings
Worst - The first Punisher movie, but I'm sure I'll think of something much much worse
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:37 PM
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14. Worst: Lolita
Both of them. But then, anyone who tries to do that book deserves their head handed to them on a platter.
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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:21 AM
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32. you didn't like the first lolita adaptation??
i thought it was terrific! did you know they tried to gull cary grant into playing humbert humbert? i wonder why he had to decline . . . :shrug:
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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:30 AM
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37. oh yes
AND PETER SELLERS????

are you crazy, man?????
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 01:59 AM
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38. James Mason wasn't nearly pervy enough
It will forever be impossible to capture the spirit of that book on film. There is too much Humbertian introspection that is lost.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:38 PM
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15. Worst
Communion by Whitley Strieber. Tried to make it into something it wasn't. I don't know quite what.

Best -- Field of Dreams.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:38 PM
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16. The House of Spirits. eom
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:42 PM
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17. Further explanation: Re. The Shining
If you are a fan of the book from before the film was made, there's a character who dies who F&&&&&&&&&ING shouldn't. You all know who I mean.

The Stand? I think it was ruined for me in several sequences (The Tunnel Scene) and mis-casting. If we can do LotR's in three films, I want to see a two movie Stand.

The start of the Stand mini was PERFECT, though. The editors knew exactly when to turn on the BOC.
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southerngirlwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:50 PM
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22. Yes.
The first few minutes were so chilling that I thought I was in for a real treat with The Stand.

Then I got Corin Nemec as Harold, and Satan had a mullet. :wtf:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:53 PM
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24. Completely agree with you about the opening...
of the "The Stand" The highway, crows, and BOC combination is haunting and memorable (burned into my brain)
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:43 PM
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18. Hated "Dune." Loved (and was vastly relieved over) LOTR
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 10:50 PM by Ready4Change
Before seeing the movie Dune I read the (first) book and thought to myself "What would I do?" First: Cut out half the characters, to give the rest room to breath, and the audience a chance to get to know them.

Second, give it scope. Film Pauls homeworld in the vertical, to accentuate all the rainfall, cliffs dropping into the sea, thunderous clouds above crashing waves, etc... The Harkonen scenes should be combinations of Roman decadence meeting post industrial wasteland. And Arakkis should have the wide open panorama of "Lawrence of Arabia."

Finally, get actors who can act, for gods sake.

Then, when seeing the movie, I see characters parading past almost as though they were living embodiments of closing credits. Desert scenery that could ahve been shot in a litter box. A cartoon villian. And performances that could are out-emoded by characters from South Park on a weekly basis.

So I had great trepidations when I went to see the movie made of another favorite authors work. And they were as perfect as I could every hope someone elses vision of the LOTR could be.

THANK YOU, Paul Jackson. Ya done good.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:47 PM
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19. If we cant do trilogies, my vote for best goes to
"The Hunt for Red October."

FANTASTIC job of adapting a book to the screen. Got just about every important element, and even got across some of Clancy's hardware detail orientedness.

I'm "this" close to replacing LOTR with "October." Hmmm...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:50 PM
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21. Worst: Last Exit To Brooklyn
Best: The Godfather (a silk purse out of a sow's ear)
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Van Helsing Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:50 PM
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23. I didn't like "Queen of the Damned"
It strayed too much from the book. It's not the worst, though. :shrug:
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:26 AM
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34. Oh my god
Queen of the Damned was the second worst movie I've ever seen. Although Alaiyah's manner of walking was very comical.
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loftycity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:54 PM
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25. Worst: Dune Best: LA Confidential
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 06:05 AM
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42. LA Confidential?!
They totally destroyed the novel! It was a good movie, but they saw fit to change the plot by 50%. IMO that's a LOUSY adaptation.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:58 PM
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27. Worst: The Perfect Storm
the bad acting and bad Boston accents made it more painful.
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 10:59 PM
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28. Worst: The Island of Doctor Moreau
with Marlon Brando. IMO possibly the worst movie ever.

The Best: What's Eating Gilbert Grape. One of the few adaptations that really works, but doesn't slavishly follow the book. Great book too BTW.
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:24 PM
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29. Best - The Man Who Would Be King
worst - The Handmaidens Tale -- thought the book was really important and the movie did not bring the intensity it should have
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:41 PM
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31. Worst: "Exit to Eden"
a comedy?

This is light S&M porn by Anne Rice folks...
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:22 AM
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33. Best and Worst: Breakfast of Champions
The movie wasn't terrible, it was actually quite cute and if I hadn't read the book I would have been satisfied.

On the other hand..... the movie was such a shallow and insipid relfection of the book from which it's losely based, I couldn't stand to watch it.
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:28 AM
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35. Best: Lord of the Rings Worst: Queen of the Damned
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mouse7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 12:30 AM
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36. Worst: The Shipping News Best: The Godfather
I love Kevin Spacey. Kevin Spacey IS NOT QUOYLE. The single worst job of casting I've ever seen. Quoyle was supposed to be almost physically repulsive. Jason Alexander-ish. The whole point of the book was the watching someone with so few redeeming characteristics become a complete person.

The best... The Godfather. Don't need to say much here.
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MichaelUK Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 04:43 AM
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40. here goes
Worst - Lord of the Rings. Bad book but even worse film

Best - Harry Potter and Chamber of Secrets (sad I know but I did enjoy both)
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 05:13 AM
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41. Best: Fight Club (slight spoilers)
Worst? Virtually anything else. Adaptions tend to not work, because film and print are completely different media. What works in one usually won't work in the other.

What made Fight Club stand out was the way Fincher (sp?) directed it, and the screenplay. They varied enough from the book to make it worth being a film.

For example: In the book, Tyler and the narrator meet on a nude beach. Eh. It worked, but only because of some philosophy that was thrown in, very wordy. In the film, they meet on an airplane. And that opens up all kinds of neat lines and scenes, and helps the film flow much better and faster, as a film should.

Also, a very fun game can be had with the Fight Club DVD, spotting all the Tyler appearances before we actually meet him. Can't do that with a book.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:45 AM
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44. Worst: "The Bonfire of the Vanities" Best : "2001" eom
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:36 AM
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49. Totally agree on these two.
Did you know that 2001 was based on a short story? After the movie came out, so many people were so confused about it, Clarke wrote the novel to help explain it.

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dedhed Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 07:49 AM
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45. Worst: James and the Giant Peach
Spiker and Sponge were right on, but the movie tanked after the first 15 minutes. Where were the Cloud People? What's with that giant, metal shark?!? Pirate skeletons?

Best: The Green Mile.

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:28 AM
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46. Starship Troopers needs a nod for worst adaptation
It was stsill a really fun movie, but it TOTALLY ignored and destroyed the entire point that Heinlein made with the book in favor of campy silliness.

I was totally, utterly devestated by the movie in that regard. But I still like to watch it because even though it destroyed the book, it:s a fun movie.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:31 AM
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47. Worst : "The Virgin Suicides"
Best: "Carrie"
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 08:33 AM
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48. Worst: War of the Worlds
great scifi movie, terrible adaptation of Welles book.

Best: The Long Hot Summer based on Faulkner stories The Hamlet and Barn Burner
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:04 AM
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51. Tie: The Memory of Eva Ryker or The Boyfriend School
Two of my very favorite books of all time, and they destroyed them both.

Memory of Eva Ryker-- the main character is old enough to be the narrator's mother, and the movie had them falling in love. Plus, they moved the shipwreck from the Titanic to some ship that supposedly got torpedoed during WW2. Sheer stupidity all around. One of Natalie Wood's movie missteps.

The Boyfriend School became "Don't Tell Her It's Me" with Steve Guttenberg (need I say more?). For some incredibly stupid reason, they moved the locale from Austin to Charleston, SC (WTF?). And I hate Jami Gertz. The only thing that saved it was Shelley Long, because she captured Lizzie.

Travesties.
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ZenLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:19 AM
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52. Any Steven King adaptation is awful, in my opinion
Actually, I liked Kubrick's Shining the best of all of them, because it varied so much from the book. But the closer one stays to the book, the worse it gets. (e.g.: The Stand, The (more recent TV version of the) Shining)

Oddly enough, I love the books.

Best? I'll go along with Laz's nomination of Fight Club, though I haven't read the book myself.
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Anaxamander Donating Member (550 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:29 AM
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53. Best: DELIVERANCE
Worst: Minority Report (ugh...)
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jdsmith Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:36 AM
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54. "Catch 22" and "MASH"
Not exactly worst and best, but films that (1) ruin a great novel and (2) elevate a poor novel while aiming for the same thing essentially: satire of contemporary war and politics.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 09:40 AM
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55. I don't know about best, but a fave:
Breakfast of Champions

I thought it was a pretty good treatment of the book.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:16 AM
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56. Worst by a mile: Maximum Overdrive
I think King tried his hand at directing this one.

King definitely deserves special mention here.

Every "faithful" film adaptation of King's supernatural novels & stories has been a disaster. Celluloid just can't compete with the imagery your mind conjures up while reading a King novel.

Kubrick's Shining was good, but disappointing to fans of the novel.

The adaptations of his psychological & character-based novels & stories have been very good (I include Carrie in this category, because it's largely about her relationship to her mother & classmates).
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:18 AM
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57. Best: The Manchurian Candidate. Worst: Clear And Present Danger
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-04 10:22 AM
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58. Manchurian Candidate is in my top 5 all time!
Tell me Raymond, have you ever killed anyone?
No, ma'am.
Not even in combat?
In combat? Yes, ma'am, I think so.
Of course you have, Raymond. Raymond has been a crack shot since childhood - A marvelous outlet for his aggressions.
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