Anyone ever heard of The Bible Code???

It's supposedly this word-find type deal in the Ancient Hebrew-written Bible that some people say has explanations of all the major world events hidden in its text. I was watching some History Channel thing on it a couple weeks ago, and I was confronted by these notions:

1) EVERYTHING written in the Bible Code that has been discovered about a particular event was discovered AFTER the event occurred, with the one exception of the assassination of Yitzakh Rabin. The text that explains 9-11 wasn't found until after 9-11, the text about the Iraq War wasn't discovered until this past spring, etc.

2) They say that the Bible Code is NOT a good means to predict the future, because anything that we try to find may be wrong, because we have no inherent nowledge of future events.

Now here's something interesting, and it's kind of what I want to talk about: There was a vague passage of text that read "Earth Annhilated - Comet - 2012". I'm assuming this means they say the end of the world will happen in 2012 (bullshit). Now as a Muslim, I am forced to dismiss that prediction as utter nonsense, simply because as a Muslim, I believe that only God will know when the world will end, and that NO HUMAN will be able to predict it. I believe that it's nonsense, but like I may have mentioned before, I have some kind of an irrational comet/asteroid fear, and this kind of turns into an irrational obsession that can bother me.

Even a guy several years ago went on Oprah talking about the Bible Code, and mentioning this passage about a comet annhilating Earth in 2012. Well, if something like that was being talked about in the open in front of a national audience, with Oprah Winfrey, with millions of people watching, then as a Muslim, I'm reassured that God will NOT have that event come true, for the reasons I stated above.

But my irrational side has been knawing at me the past few days, and I just need to let go of it. I mean, in 1999, millions of people who not necessarily believed Y2K/the end of the world in 2000 were still talking about it/the potential of it happening. And that fact alone made me know that it wouldn't happen.

Look, I think of it this way: There was a movie where one guy said, "If I kill you, it'll be when you least expect it." That's exactly my feeling about humans/God and the end of the world. The very fact alone that some scientists/theologists (and maybe many people who watched the few TV shows they were on) are dicussing this passage of text IN ITSELF means that it's not gonna happen. I hope you understand what I'm saying.

I guess I just had to rant a little bit. While I truly believe that that comet passage was nonsense, I still need to get over this irrational fear. It's been biting at me lately.

some religious right people who want to believe that the Bible predicts everything (and contains all truth) were talking about it a lot

that the planet will get redeemed in 2012.

I personally thought that it may have to get worse to get better before that. Never did I ever forsee this country digressing so fast and in such short order under *.

Still hoping for the best. . .

...not from natural phenomena.

only God and the Cosmos (which may be one in the same) can do that.

He said something along the lines of the Earth survived comet storms, endless meteorites, typhoons, twisters you name it. The Earth isn't going anywhere...it's us PEOPLE that have to worry...

pops up a lot. Check out Aztec & Maya calendars (they end time at 2012) and there has been quite a lot of talk by astrologers and new age mystics about a world shift in that year. Polar shifts, magnetic shifts, dimensional shifts.

Tons of info on 2012 as a "End of the world as we know it" date.

http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/ Here's a link on edit

A bunch of groups were saying that the world would end in 2000, but it never happened.

God has a 100 percent perfect track record in having those things not come to fruition so far.

They've aired it several times over the past few weeks. One of the guys who believes in it said something about how there was going to be a big breakthrough in the Middle East Peace Plan. This would lead to 7 years of "false peace", then BOOM!!!!!!!

Of course, this breakthrough was supposed to happen in Sept/Oct of last year.....

And there's no whatsoever peace to be found in the immediate future.

That gets rid of the anti-christ scenario...

may be on the internet.

:-)

ie it read 6418 or whatever it will be?

Or did the passage make clear "that's 2012 in the forthcoming Christian calendar, by the way"

Or is it 2012 in the Muslim calendar? In which case, we got quite a bit more time.

It's true, if God really was going to end the world, and he put the message for it in code in the Bible, it would seem to mean he has a favouring for computer scientists and actuaries - people who'll go to all the bother of reading the Bible in the wrong order to see what happens, and people who can then work out what to do with all their money because they won't need it soon. It's not a message I've heard in any major religion yet - 'blessed are the C++ programmers'.

The Jewish year 57 or 58-something-something.

There are a lot of predictions for that year -
everything from the destruction of the Earth, to the end of 'existence' as we know it, to the return of Christ, to UFO's landing on the White House lawn.

So I suggest you just fasten your seat belt and expect a lot of wild theories leading up to - and throughout - 2012.

If a whole bunch of mortal humans say it will be so, then God will not make it so.

I know nothing about the Bible Code and even less about God's true intentions. I'm just a mortal, I'd never presume to understand God.

2,000,000 years from now, that a miscalculation or mistranslation was made regarding 2012.

There is a common belief in the general community to the effect that many mathematicians, statisticians, and other scientists consider the claims to be credible. This belief is incorrect. On the contrary, the almost unanimous opinion of those in the scientific world who have studied the question is that the theory is without foundation. The signatories to this letter have themselves examined the evidence and found it entirely unconvincing.

http://www.math.caltech.edu/code/petition.html

I also learned that the vast majority of the mathematics/statistics comunnity found it to be complete bull-plop.

What does it matter how or when we end? The end, if it is to be, will not be changed by the inhabitants of the Earth.

We probably already have everything needed to avert a disaster like a comet or an asteroid destroying Earth, as we know it, in our weapons of mass annihilation.

But we Earthlings would rather destroy each other and our home planet with wars over oil and territory, polluting our air with carbon fuels, destroying our life-giving oceans, rivers, and lakes with everything from industrial waste and farm waste, to human waste.

We humans cannot comprehend the Deity in whatever form it may be, thus we try personify the unpersonifiable and look for supporting evidence where ever it might be found. I would put as much faith in the Bible Code as I do the little astrological snippet in the daily newspaper's horoscope column.

God, Jehovah, Allah, Yawah, or whatever we want to call the Power behind the forever of the Universe, doesn't need to explain its existence to us. We most likely wouldn't understand anyway. Or if we did understand, we would, if our past behaviors are any indication, reject the explanation.

Stuff that completely debunks its integrity:

THE END OF THE BIBLE CODE, PART III

NEGATIVE CODES IN THE TORAH

If "Bible Codes" are really inspired by the Judeo-Christian Deity, then how does one explain these negative codes, which have all been found as official ELS "messages" in the Torah?

from http://www.prophezine.com/tcode/negcode.html :

--There is no Deliverance/Salavation--
--JESUS IS SATAN--

From http://www.prophezine.com/tcode/negjesus.html :

--Hate Jesus--
--Please drive out Jesus--
--She hastened to hate Jesus--
--Jesu(s) is not God--
--God is not YHWH--
--There is no YHWH--
--There is no God--

From http://www.prophezine.com/tcode/rebut3.html

--There is no God.--
--There is a God.-- (This page has many pairs of contradictory codes...)

From http://www.prophezine.com/tcode/rebut4.html

--Jehovah is a liar--occurs 8 times in the Torah
--Jehovah is dead--occurs hundreds of times in the Torah.
--There is no Jehovah--occurs dozens of times in the Torah
--There is no God--occurs 5 times in the Torah.
--God is dead--
--there is no truth--
--there is no evil--
--there is no good(ness)--
--there is no redemption--
--there is no Messiah--

From http://www.prophezine.com/tcode/rebut5.html

--Satan is Jehovah --
--Satan is God <'Eloah>--

"I believe that only God will know when the world will end, and that NO HUMAN will be able to predict it."

Too true!

I was laughing my a** off watching the special. It is nothing more then a parlor trick, that is made possible by advent of computers. If I understod the claim right one there are numerous possible starting conditions.

It is just a bunch of hog-wash.

Here's some links from Internet Infidels.
Here's an interesting link: Moby Dick vs The Bible Code

Nostradamus et al concerning earth's axis shift, magnetic field shift, and the change in its land masses. Apparently, I am living in an area that will be under water and the new North pole at some point.

If it helps you any, most of the major religions and new age philosophies have a story about a second coming or an end times scenario and they seem to all echo each other as far as the main details. BUT, they also echo each other in that what comes after the great calamities is a tremendous peace and love, if not here on this earth than in the next world/dimension. So what we are looking at is growing pains and an opportunity to evolve into something better than we are now.

:tinfoilhat:

We will destroy ourselves before a comet does. There will be some survivors after we run out of oil but only about ten percent of the population of the earth when it happens.

It's good for explaining the situation, but fails to give alternative scenarios. It only explains the absolute WORST thing that could happen from Peak Oil.

I actually think economic collapse and political instability could occur, but to say that 90 percent of people will die is ludicrous.