"A Clockwork Orange" - What was your first impression when you saw this?

Taverner

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Sat May-01-04 11:00 PM
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"A Clockwork Orange" - What was your first impression when you saw this?

Edited on Sat May-01-04 11:02 PM by Taverner

Me? OH MY GAAAAAWWWWD!

I can't beleive they made this.....

I was awestruck, but at the same time something did not feel right....

What an amazing piece of art...

True art does not merely entertain...it moves you in some direction...

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Tina H

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Sat May-01-04 11:02 PM
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1. Just saw this movie for the 1st time last week . . .

Edited on Sat May-01-04 11:07 PM by Tina H

Uncomfortable sympathizing with Alex?

KUBRICK RULEZ!!!!!

On edit: did your earlier post mention Pancho Villa? If so, was he really a jazz guy?

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Taverner

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Sat May-01-04 11:05 PM
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4. Exactly

The first part of the movie you loathe Alex - he is the embodiment of Republican evil.

Then the next part you sympathize with him and feel his pain...

Then in the end Burgess (and Kubrick ) hits you with reality - THE FUCKING JOKE'S ON YOU!!!!

You hate him all over again...

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Tina H

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Sat May-01-04 11:08 PM
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7. sorry about the belated ps to my previous n/t

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Tina H

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Sat May-01-04 11:20 PM
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17. On the DVD

the extra features explain that Kubrick/Burgess were tring to parody both the RW (the prison guard) and the LW (the writer). Perhaps a bit too even (and heavy) handed for DU!

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Taverner

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Sat May-01-04 11:11 PM
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11. Pancho Sanchez

Pancho Villa was a Mexican Revolutionary

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Tina H

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Sat May-01-04 11:13 PM
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12. That explains a lot . . .

Who are the other jazz-bo's I should be looking for?

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Taverner

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Sat May-01-04 11:15 PM
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13. Oh tons

John McLaughlin, Tito Puente, Jaco Pastorius, Chic Corea, Weather Report, Medeski Martin and Wood...the list could go on forever

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Tina H

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Sat May-01-04 11:17 PM
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14. bookmarked for Amazon and Shareaza purposes, thnx n/t

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mourningdove92

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Sat May-01-04 11:04 PM
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2. Saw it for the first time many years ago...loved it.

For my son and I,it is "our" movie.

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CoonDawg

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Sat May-01-04 11:04 PM
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3. Me?

I thought...wow...so this is what being stoned is like.

No, seriously, it was one of the weirdest pieces of cinema i'd ever seen. I was only about 12 at the time...staying up late to watch Cinemax at Grandma's house, hoping to catch a hooter shot.

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Tina H

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Sat May-01-04 11:06 PM
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5. Did you enjoy the W. Tell Overture scene? n/t

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mistertrickster

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Sat May-01-04 11:07 PM
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6. I was glad that I could understand it better than the book--half of

it was in Russian inter-language . . . but both were pretty awesome.

Scary view of the future . . . especially when the main character comes home from raping and stealing, puts on the Beethoven and thinks to himself "this was a perfect evening."

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Bossy Monkey

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Sat May-01-04 11:10 PM
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8. Like a baseball bat to my face

I was 16, saw it at Governor's School with the other scholars. I was taking Poli Sci, so it was actually an assignment. Considering that this is South Carolina, can you imagine the shit that would hit the fan if they tried to show this to high school students today? (It was 1978, man.)

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murielm99

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Sat May-01-04 11:10 PM
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9. The first time I saw it, many years ago, I found it so disturbing that

I did not "get" the ending. That may have been a woman's reaction, too. There was alot of disturbing violence against women in it. It was unusually graphic for those times.

I saw it a second time, about a week later, and I was awed by the overall experience.

My son wanted to watch it when he was in junior high, so we watched it together. His older sister had the same reaction I had when I was about her age. She was disturbed by the violence against women.

It comes from a story by a British science fiction writer who was always controversial.

It is definitely an interesting and disturbing movie.

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Rabrrrrrr

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Sat May-01-04 11:10 PM
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10. I saw it in college, during Bush the First's administration

and my thought watching the movie was that it was totally the Reagan/Bush wet-dream scenario for America.

I was also disturbed by it - as one should be, since it's a story that is designed to disturb, and I relished taht disturbing which continues to inform who I am and what I believe - whie on the other hand I was distrubed because I was sure that some of my very conservative friends in the college watched it and thought, "See - its important to lock up and do experiments on deviants - that is, communists and liberals and people who ride their bokes and don't eat meat - so that they won't destory America and society."

:puke:

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Taverner

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Sat May-01-04 11:19 PM
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16. Whats ironic is Anthony Burgess was a Tory

And worked with M1 (British CIA) - so he was well aware of the whole mind control experiments UK was doing at the time. Basically this was a book chronicling his fears of:

1 - Soviet influence of Western Europe (hence the overbearing welfare state, Russian slang, etc)
2 - MK Ultra working hand in hand with the Government to control society

By today's standards, Burgess would be a Democrat, but times were different back then

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MrSlayer

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Sat May-01-04 11:19 PM
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15. How about a bit of the old ultraviolence my little droogies?

Loved it, found the "singing in the rain" part especially amusing. All the kids in my nieghborhood wanted to be Swan or Ajax from "The Warriors", I wanted to be Little Alex.

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Rabrrrrrr

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Sat May-01-04 11:24 PM
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18. a little bit of the ol' "in out in out"

:-)

Love the Bart Simpson Alex costume from either the first or second season. Wonderful!

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MrSlayer

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Sat May-01-04 11:28 PM
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19. Come and get one in the Yarbles.....if you have any Yarbles!

That was a great movie, great soundtrack too.

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Rabrrrrrr

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Sat May-01-04 11:32 PM
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20. Yeah, a soundtrack written by a man, who's now a woman

Gotta love the ol' "William Carlos --> Wendy Carlos" evolution!

And I don't mean that disparingly, for anyone who's looking for a reason to start a flame war. I think it's wonderful that he changed his sex because he felt the need. In fact, one of my partner's first boyfriends is now a woman.

it's just the way it goes.

But yeah, many wondrous and brilliant intperpretations of Beethoven's Ninth in the movie.

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FDRrocks

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Sat May-01-04 11:32 PM
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21. Scared as all hell...

I wasn't completely in the normal frame of mind and was freaked out beyond words. The only movie that scared me more than ACO when I was in a psychadelic state was Evil Dead 2.

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HEyHEY

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Sat May-01-04 11:37 PM
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22. Boring, farfetched, pretentious

:-)

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DS1

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Sat May-01-04 11:40 PM
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23. look, boobies and bush. Hey, I was about 12.

leave me alone.

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