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jtb33 Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:33 PM
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Poll question: Kerry in 04 or Clinton in 08?
Without debating the liklihood of this occurrance, would you prefer that Bush* win in November and H. Clinton win the WH in 2008, or would you prefer that Kerry win in November and H. Clinton not ever make it to the WH?

(I only put in the 3rd choice if you can't decide - or don't want to - between the other two choices)

And... just out of curiosity, if Kerry were to lose in November, do you think he'd give it a run again in 2008?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:34 PM
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1. How odd
Usually it's Republicans who are most obsessed with HRC winning the White House.
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jtb33 Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:35 PM
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2. Not always...
Edited on Wed Jun-02-04 03:36 PM by jtb33
:)

You wouldn't like to see her in the WH? :)
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:37 PM
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4. No.
Not in the least.
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Commendatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:41 PM
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6. Same here.
If we ever hit the point where she's the best candidate we can produce, it's time to form a new party.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:43 PM
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8. I think it's entirely a GOP illusion
I don't think she has a snowball's chance in hell of winning an election. Everyone knows her already and has an opinion, and I highly doubt that the majority is favorable. I think she's just the new boogeyman.
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Commendatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:45 PM
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10. That doesn't mean she won't try, and
Edited on Wed Jun-02-04 03:46 PM by BlueOysterDemocrat
some women will vote for her just because of her plumbing.

I want no part of that, though. I'm for health care for all, but NOT "universal," and certainly not her brand.

(edited to include the omitted "not," which is now capitalized as well)
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:49 PM
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11. Yeah, I know some would vote for her
But it'd come out something like 54-46% against her. There is a very definite and set public opinion about her already, which is not something you want in a presidential candidate.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:41 PM
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5. Not really.
I like her; I wish she had had success with health care reform.

I just don't think she would make a good president.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:37 PM
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3. Yes. How completely strange.
I'm not playing.
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:42 PM
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7. I think the options are more likely to be:
Kerry in 04 or Ashcroft in 08. Given another 4 years, Bush will most likely acquire the ability to appoint his successor.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:45 PM
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9. So I should suffer another 4 years w/ Bush just so I could have Hillary...
Edited on Wed Jun-02-04 03:45 PM by LynneSin
ARE YOU FREAKING NUTS OR WHAT???????


Hillary had her chance to run in 2004 and she decided not to run. I'm not going to suffer with another 4 years of bush just for the thrill of Hillary for president. She'll do quite nicely in the Senate thank you very much

:crazy:
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dr.strangelove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:57 PM
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13. I'm not nuts
This was pretty close for me. I think the benefit of having the better person be president in the future (Hillary is way ahead of Kerry in my book) is outweighed by the possibility of Roe being overturned by a Bush SCOTUS appointment when Sandy Day steps down next year. I'll vote for Kerry now, but its pretty close.

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jtb33 Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 03:52 PM
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12. Wow...
It would seem that most really don't care (or don't even WANT) to have Hillary win the presidency... I'd like to have her in the WH (would her as VP be better than her as Pres? Would she want that?).
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 04:17 PM
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14. Moot point.
I like Hillary and whenever some freeper badmouths her I'll always rush to her defense. But there's no way she'll ever win. As much as freepers lash out at Kerry, they FUCKING LOATHE Hillary like Satan herself. She is such a polarizing figure. I know, so is Dubya. But he's never won a Presidential election either.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 04:47 PM
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15. This is one dumb poll. Who in the world would go for more bush..
under any circumstance?????
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Whitacre D_WI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 04:50 PM
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16. HRC is way to the right of Kerry.
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drumwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-04 04:59 PM
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17. Shit, you might as well ask me "Kerry in 04 or Bush in 04?"
Even putting aside the fact that we absolutely have to avert a second Bush term at all costs, I'm really not crazy about the idea of HRC becoming president in and of itself.

I find her to be cynical, blatantly power-hungry and willing to compromise her principles (and as another respondent already pointed out, she's significantly to the right of Kerry). As a former New Yorker, I was kind of turned off by her move to New York to claim a Senate seat and her transparent attempt to pretend to be a down-home Noo Yawker (claiming to be a Yankees fan, etc.).

I'd vote for her over a wingnut neocon/fundie, but even then only grudgingly. If she was running against a relatively sane, moderate Republican, I would vote Green.
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