Band that is most sadly neglected by history?

My vote goes to Mott the Hoople. They have one song everyone knows ("All the Young Dudes"), which was written by David Bowie. Most of their music was excellent, and yet it never gets any airplay.

What say you?

Ian Hunter - the man who put Cleveland on the map!

My vote goes to Moby Grape. Skip Spence was a goddamn genius before going off the deep end.

His band on that included Jaco Pastorious, David Sanborne, and Aynsley Dunbar.

Ever hear "Oar?" Awesome record.

Randy California's prodigious talent was never properly acknowledged.

It does in my book. Randy California basically wrote that tune. My choice is more obscure (most people have heard two or three Spirit songs), but Spirit is one of those bands that makes you wonder how certain bands got into the "Classic Rock Parthenon"(TM) and others didn't. Probably some type of payola.

Those opening bars are virtually identical, though. Zeppelin opened for Spirit on one of their early tours, so it's pretty clear that Jimmy did indeed nick it from them--they used to do 'Fresh Garbage' live as well.

Their first album is truly exceptional, and you're right that they get almost zero respect these days. The pop singer Pink recently ripped off the 'Fresh Garbage' riff--when I saw it on Leno I almost threw up in my mouth. :(

guess that's why I liked them. Just got 12 Dreams on CD,ahh, the old days!

There are bands that are somewhat neglected, and bands that are totally neglected. The Move falls in the second category.

You're right though, few in the US are familiar with them, though Lynne of course went on to ELO (Wood didn't last long enough there), and they influenced the crap out of Cheap Trick. :D

Good choice. I bought Split Ends from the cutout bin at Sears in 1976 or 1977 for 99 cents. Money well spent.

The Move morphed into Electric Light Orchestra.

Toddo Rundgren covers "Do Ya" on one of his live albums, Another Live. He says he was repaying The Move for their cover of "Open My Eyes," which I have never heard. We'll ignore this website's mention of "the Move's cretinous glam rock behemoth 'Do Ya'."

when they decided to call themselves "Mott the Hoople"....:P

:7

innit? :7

Their only brief claim to respect was in the sixties when they played the UFO with Barrett era Floyd--their first three albums are great records. Ratledge in particular achieved a crazy and unique keyboard sound, and influenced Eno with his tape loop noodlings on Third, and later incarnations of the band did so as well with proto-ambient stuff like Carol Ann. Robert Wyatt with working legs is my favorite drummer/singer--what a unique voice he has!

But really, if you get a hold of their BBC sessions' first volume, just listen to 'Moon in June'--all the elements that made them a great band are there. :) The non-BBC recording isn't anywhere near as good.

it's the attitude that counts.

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also NRBQ


*sings* Mott the Hoople and the game of Life...yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Robyn Hitchcock's band. Good stuff.

The guy also sounds eerily like Barrett--'I've Got the Hots' sounds like the bastard child of 'Maisie'.

although I love Robyn in pretty much any form

Best soul band in the world. Musicians all love them, including Aretha Franklin and Ray Charles, may he rest in peace. Everyone else thinks they stopped recording in the 1970's.

as a solo artist.

with Al Green on July 31st at the Greek Theater.

Let's take it on down to Bump City and get a Soul Vaccination

Or the Thamesmen.

Ignored in the US. Mostly.

I posted them as a very underrated band a few weeks ago, and got a response. Was that you?

But I am a long time fan, seen them twice.

They put on quite the performance.

The could have been The Rolling Stones, but the Stones were better connected, I guess.

Hell, even the Kinks only get two or three of their songs played regularly on the radio.

or the Clash.

As for underrated bands, in terms of neglected, I'd go with Spirit and the Sonics.

Neither of them big sellers, but both astoundingly influential.

one of the highlights of my career was opening for them.

I guess I should say "are good." They are back at it again.

player ever. No other piano player in recent music history comes close to the combination of technical savvy and raw expressiveness of James Booker. I swear when he plays it is like two people are sitting at the piano playing at the same time. Even exceptionally gifted piano players have difficulty learning and playing the improvisational stuff that rolled off Booker's fingertips. Unfortunately, Booker died in obscurity and virtually no one knows this extraordinarily gifted piano wizard.

the other guy I like is John Jarvis in Nashville. The best piano player on earth.

thanks for the recommendation.

he plays frequently on Monday nights at the Bluebird with Mike Henderson's band (GREAT band).

He also plays more piano sessions than just about anybody.

He has a new solo record out under the name John Barlow Jarvis, that features more of his jazz and classical influences. But when it comes to honky tonk, boogie woogie, and flat out rock'n'roll, Jarvis is a monster.

My mom lives in Nashviulle, so we are down there frequently. I'll check him out next time we are down. Anyone who knows Booker, knows quality music as far as I'm concerned.

IIRC, they were Scots, were they not?

Though I saw Orange Juice back in the day. You may all be jealous now.

Or impressed that I had the clarity and good taste to see Orange Juice in their heyday?

Never mind, I'll take the latter complement as your intended one. It fits better with my current self image. ;-)

;-) You don't look a day over 14, hon.

Especially when you know I don't look a day over 12! :P

"Glaswegian" is fun to say. Like "Mancunian".

How do you get 'someone from Halifax' out of that?
Same goes for Novacastrian.

Why can't the Brits and Scots be more like the Welsh and have all of their city names end in long strings of unpronounceable consonants?

A personal favourite.

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'Mott' is one of THE great albums.

Another neglected band: The Sound. They brouught out a great album during the Joy Division era called 'From The Lion's Mouth'.

Overend Watts with his thigh-high boots, white Gibson Thunderbird and silver spray-painted hair! It don't get more glam than that!

They were going to be our generation's Beatles, then Bradley died. There was so much that they were going to be but never was.

Really sad.

Still don't get it.

What was the big deal about Brad? Singing was tuneless, guitar playing rather sloppy. Never heard anything deep in lyrics like "beleive me when I say that I've got something for his punk ass."

There was a period in the late nineties where there was a lot of rock coming out that sounded like hip-hop; I started calling it "hip-rock".

"Better Days" by Citizen King
"Fly" by Sugar Ray
"The Hooch" by Everything
a whole lot of Kid Rock
"Friends and Family" by Trik Turner
a whole lot of Shooty'z Groove
"Steal My Sunshine" by LEN
"Butterfly" by Crazytown
"What It's Like" by Everlast

And you could probably find a bunch more.

Thanks guys... we really needed that.

Certainly one of the best of his time. And a great lyricist, too.

"Had a Dat"

Raging and swirling,
getting inside,
I feel Like I'm going to Break!

Bright sun sinking low,
I never feel afraid to let emotions show.
Well I did.
Now take a look at me,
I had a close brush before your destiny.

Before I end, and you'll be victims of
my stories, tales, lies, and exaggerations.
I'm gonna
When your living life like a show
you gotta
take a bow to the people you know

I said lie, for me
lying under a process tree
oh engrossing in my brain
feeling like I'm going a little insane.

a little close inside
feels like I'm going INSANE!

Red lights
are sinking low

I grab another beer cuz it's time to go...

I feel my head burst, I head out to your car
And I pray to Jesus Christ, but you won't get too far

I say uh, headlights and uh second gear
I run the road of like and skip the things you fear
I said that you might, that you might find a better way
to justify the evil things that you say

Ah, help me please, ah help me please
because I'm going upon my knees

I said, I said
going down to my knees
I pray to the Lord up above!

Help me,
I'm falling down
feeling now the cold, cold, cold, hard ground

haunting faces, and moving lines
slumber party for tonight

Pound it hard, your gonna pound it again
but please just do not pump up my friend
cuz it seems all right, gonna push him around
but I can't be taken for no clown.

Because,
when I am on the ground I CRY!

wowowowowowo.. Dub Style!

oh, cool and easy
oh no
cool and easy
to the sweet reggae music
oh no
feels all right to sweet reggae music
feels all right
sweet reggae music....
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I don't know how familiar you are with Sublime, but "What I Got" isn't one of their best. Try songs like "April 29th," "Don't Push," "Superstar Punani," "Seed," "Get Ready," "40 oz to Freedom"....

These guys had something- and everybody liked them. Grunges, hippies, surfers, jocks, preps, cokeheads, stoners, whoever. Just like the Beatles.

Outside of BOC, these guys are my favorites.

R.I.P, Lonesome Dave.

and I'll add... UFO... and The Tubes.

I kinda had a little thing for Fee Waybill. I think it's that cute little nose of his.

They still do great shows. Check out their website:

http://www.the-tubes.com

Best band ever.

:evilgrin:

XTC.

:evilgrin:

:evilgrin:

You probably don't even know who they are, do you?

the party broke up.

:evilgrin:

Sorry, couldn't help myself! :-)

Who wasn't Don Weiss...

Interesting stuff.
Love "Walk the Dionsaur"

healed a couple of lepers
and disappeared..."

...complete with a sample of a Reagan speech about the ship of state.

believe it or not 'What Up Dog' is never far from my cd, er, cassette player! Never fails to make me smile!

Its available on CD now and IMHO it is their finest album. It has the infamous Zaz Turned Blue on it.

I forgot about Zaz....LOL!

It's just for some odd reason WUD tickles my beleaguered fancy! :freak:

:D

p.s. yes, my fancy is beleaguered! :silly:

Has Ozzy Osbourne rapping on it, of all people.

What an outrageous tune.

It is super cool! B-)

You just have to love Mel for recording a song like that. He certainly must have had a good sense of humor. The Velvet Fog!

are always overlooked. For a band that has alot of great songs, you never hear about them. Sublime is often forgotten about as well.

and even then the Kinks were overlooked.
I was just a kid and wondered what all the fuss was about when die-hard fans at the time would write in complaining about this.
Now I know!

Yes, they've achieved a good amount of praise for their recordings, BUT they (along with The Memphis Horns) are responsible for the Memphis Soul sound that is associated with the Stax label. Nearly every recording that came out of Memphis during the Stax revolution featured these guys in the studio.

If you love the sound of Memphis Soul/Blues, you can thank them.

when I was at the R and R Hall on Sat. they were cited as influencing a surprising number of proto punks, etc. My husband has always really liked them as well and the R and R exhibits, fascinating, BTW, sparked some good conversation about them. Synchronicity.

PS I really liked the IM PEI/ R and R Hall of Fame building. Amazing. It was so pretty down there by the lake. And we met this guy from England at the Hall who was a punk fanatic since the early days and told us all these great stories about doing security for the Clash, the Damned, etc. Pretty cool. :hi:

Dutch band - "Hocus Pocus", "Sylvia", "House of the King" - you've probably heard them all (half prog rock, half heavy rock), but somehow the band's name never seems to stick with people.

Even with all that yodeling. :evilgrin:

And the Detroit Wheels.

You're saying "the Who gets plenty of attention." I say to that "but not as much attention as they deserve as the greatest rock band ever!"

And if you don't believe me, take a look at this list of Top 100 British albums. You'll see the Who is way down at the friggin' bottom.

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/0,12103,1033618,00.html

Dammit, why weren't they superstars?

:)

another nomination from me, though I voted before.

"You won't fool
The Children of the Revolution!"

It's one of the best things about the movie Billy Elliott, that great T. Rex-heavy soundtrack.

"You're my toy, my 20th century boy..."

Even though he went to some bands that were useless when he got there; i.e. The James Gang and Deep Purple, it wasn't really his fault. He was just trying to play his music. And besides, the James Gang lp "Bang" is actually pretty good. It features Tommy Bolin all the way through. They are somewhat hard to find, but if you get a chance, check out the aforementioned album, cd, or whatever, and two solo efforts by Tommy Bolin, "Teaser" and "Private Eyes". Fine guitar work. Very eclectic, not just metal madness.

I like Teaser a lot but I haven't heard Private Eyes.

Very very interesting first five albums.

They made one of the greatest albums of the 60's, Forever Changes, which most critics recognize. But their first two albums are classics in their own right. That Arthur Lee was able to reassemble a new lineup to fulfill their contract with Electra and still make a great fourth album is a testament to his genius. Keep on rocking, Arthur Lee!

succeed in rock. By the mid to late 60s blacks,who had done so much to usher in rock and roll(Chuck Berry,Bo Diddly,Little Richard,and many others),were marginalized as performers and young blacks listened to Motown almost exclusively.

For that reason alone,we owe Arthur Lee thanks. And yes,Love was a great band."Forever Changes" was a great album.As was their first one,the self titled "Love",definitive LA garage band sound."Signed DC" is as poignant and harrowing a song about drug addiction as I've ever heard,and it's as fresh today as it was then.

The two of them were great friends. Hendrix jammed with him on one of the albums Love did for the Blue Thumb label. You can get it on the CD compilation Big Beat put out called Out There.

Great to meet another Love fan! Incidentally, on the Out There CD is a very bluesy version of Signed DC that really kicks.

And give Arthur Lee credit for introducing Jim Morrison to Electra and having The Doors open for Love at the Whiskey!

Lydon's first few albums with them were ten times better than his stuff with the sex pistols

Peggy Suicide was an absolute masterpiece for the 1990s.

Their album "the hHeart of the Congos" is a classic

mainly out of nostalgia.

They didn't get nearly enough recognition. Their musical stylings were groundbreaking, IMO.

Loved all around in the underground scene, but never could achieve the status where they could really get their message across.

The man is a fucking genius. He can create a perfectly crafted pop song, but it's melancholy and intelligent and literate, and I LOVE him.

Plus, bonus for Byron, also a Scot.

I also agree with other suggestions: X (from L.A.), Roxy Music, T-Rex (!)....

1980s: The Producers

1970s: Bloodrock

1990s: The Pursuit Of Happiness

I love Johnette's voice, and James Mankey is a fantastic guitar player.
Although I have to agree, Mott the Hoople is an excellent choice as well.

Listen to their "Congregation" album without crying. I dare you.

This band was so good they became one of the few things I agree with Ted Nugent on.

I thought about putting them on my list, but lately they seem to be a bit more appreciated, by Rock "Historians" at least.

BTW, I used to hear them on WABX in Detroit when I was a "tween." MC5 and The Stooges had me all primed for Punk when it finally came along.

"I might like you better if we slept together"

They couldn't handle that the lead singer, Debora Iyall, was heavy, even though her voice could make the walls shake. What assholes! And I loved the sax!

Breakfast In America was a great album...ALBUM.

What's a Cleveland guy doing with a Reds Avatar? Saw them sweep Houston in May. My first time in the new ballpark. I forgot how fun a baseball game can be as I haven't been to one for years.

on the grounds that any group whose entire output has made the transition to CD is automatically disqualified.

I like Mott the Hoople. I also like Roxy Music, but one can hardly say that it was neglected.

OK, I'll nominate Badfinger as the most star-crossed group. Legal squabbles tied up the group for years. Two members of the group committed suicide. Their outstanding album Straight Up was finally released on CD a few years back.

My favorite group, and one that got not a lot of mention, is 801. My favorite album is 801 Live. My favorite song on that album, and in fact my favorite rock song of all time, is "TNK," the best version of the Beatles' song "Tomorrow Never Knows" ever. EVER.

A CD of another of 801's concerts, 801 Live at Manchester University has been released.

I am all-vinyl, so I can't provide catalog numbers for the CDs.

If you want "neglected," try 801's guitar player, Phil Manzanera.

or any other sticky chewy over the top competition. Sadly underrated

well, from the eighties.
how about the wolfgang press?

Best band EVER, but sadly, no mainstream radio has ever picked up on their amazing talents.

Every person in that band is a top 10 in the world at his perspective instrument, but yet, no mainstream recognition.

Sigh...

who among us couldn't sing along with most of their songs even now?

The name ALONE should earn them a permanent place in music history :D

Gretchen goes to Nebraska and beyond--not their previous life as some fundie band.
Terry Bozzio is great on his own all by his lonesome..check out a solo cd sometime..