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StrongBad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 08:54 AM
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Greatest Debut Album?
This isn't a poll, because I think there are too many choices one can decide upon.

Regardless, what is the best debut album by an artist or band?

My vote:

Greetings From Asbury Park, NJ ; Bruce Springsteen

He was only 23 when he made it, but damn it is so lyrically and musically mature. I think it is better than some of his later stuff.

What do you think?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 08:56 AM
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1. I was just thinking about this the other day!
I think Uncle Tupelo's "No Depression" has to be right near the top. </Belleville bias>
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 08:57 AM
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2. "Meet The Beatles"
It included the following songs, among others:

I Wanna Hold Your Hand
I Saw Her Standing There
This Boy
All My Loving
Till There Was You
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mrbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 08:58 AM
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3. a second for the motion.
"meet the beatles"

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StrongBad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:00 AM
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You sure about the tracklisting?
My "Meet the Beatles CD" doesn't have I Wanna Hold Your Hand, I Saw Her Standing There, This Boy, or All My Loving.

I thought IWHYH and AML were released as singles, and that ISHST was on Please Please me and This Boy was on A Hard Days Night?

And also wasn't Meet The Beatles their second album, their first being Please Please Me?
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:08 AM
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12. "Meet The Beatles" Was Their First Capital Album Released in the US
Vee-Jay Records brought out "Introducing the Beatles" around the same time.

There was an instrumental version of "This Boy" on the "Hard Day's Night" soundtrack - it was called "Ringo's Theme".
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:12 AM
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15. More on "Meet The Beatles"


MEET THE BEATLES!

20/01/1964 (MONO) Capitol T-2047
20/01/1964 (STEREO) Capitol ST-2047

CD release
never released


Side A

I Want To Hold Your Hand
I Saw Her Standing There
This Boy
It Won't Be Long
All I've Got To Do
All My Loving


Side B

Don't Bother Me
Little Child
Till There Was You
Hold Me Tight
I Wanna Be Your Man
Not A Second Time

http://digilander.libero.it/thebeatlesarchive/disco/meetthebeatles.htm

(PS - It seems "Introducing the Beatles" was released in 1963, but most people didn't hear about The Beatles until January of 1964.
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StrongBad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:15 AM
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18. Thanks for the info
I think this is no longer in print. A shame because it does seem like a killer album.

I have every other Beatles release and now I'm pissed that I don't have this!
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:56 AM
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30. Meet the Beatles vs With the Beatles
With the Beatles = UK

Parlophone PMC 1206; PCS 3045 - November 22, 1963
Capitol CLJ 46436 - July 21, 1987

LP Side 1
It Won't Be Long
All I've Got To Do
All My Loving
Don't Bother Me
Little Child
Till There Was You
Please Mr. Postman

LP Side 2
Roll Over Beethoven
Hold Me Tight
You Really Got A Hold On Me
I Wanna Be Your Man
Devil In Her Heart
Not A Second Time
Money



Meet the Beatles - US
Capitol (S)T 2047
January 20, 1964

Side 1
I Want To Hold Your Hand
I Saw Her Standing There
This Boy
It Won't Be Long
All I've Got To Do
All My Loving

Side 2
Don't Bother Me
Little Child
Till There Was You
Hold Me Tight
I Wanna Be Your Man
Not A Second Time


Dangit - I am trying to post images but I ain't doing it right.
I'm on a Mac - do the instructions remain the same?

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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:21 AM
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23. "Introducing The Beatles"


INTRODUCING THE BEATLES
22/07/1963 (MONO) Vee Jay LP1062
22/07/1963 (STEREO) Vee Jay SR1062

2nd issue
Introducing The Beatles
27/01/1964 (MONO) Vee Jay LP1062
27/01/1964 (STEREO) Vee Jay SR1062

3th issue
The Beatles Vs The Four Seasons
01/10/1964 (MONO) Vee Jay DX30
01/10/1964 (STEREO) Vee Jay DXS30

4th issue
Songs, Pictures And Stories Of The Fabulous Beatles
12/10/1964 (MONO) Vee Jay VJLP1092
12/10/1964 (STEREO) Vee Jay VJS1092

CD release
never released


Side A

I Saw Her Standing There
Misery
Anna (Go To Him)
Chains
Boys
Love Me Do (replaced with "Ask Me Why" in 2nd, 3rd, 4th edition)


Side B

P.S. I Love You (replaced with "Please Please Me" in 2nd, 3rd, 4th edition)
Baby It's You
Do You Want To Know A Secret
A Taste Of Honey
There's A Place
Twist And Shout

http://digilander.libero.it/thebeatlesarchive/disco/introducingthebeatles.htm
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:17 AM
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40. The Beatles' first album was actually "Please Please Me"

Released in the U.K. in '63. Their second album was "With The Beatles," or "Meet The Beatles," as it was called for its subsequent U.S. release.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:42 AM
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45. I Was Referring to US Releases, Not UK
In fact, "Introducing the Beatles" was released in the US during the Summer of 1963, but sold poorly at first. A few Beatle songs were featured on American Bandstand's "Rate a Record" and they got dismal ratings. When Dick Clark held up a picture of the Fab Four, everybody laughed.

Six months later, we couldn't get enough of the Beatles. And the stockpiles of "Introducing the Beatles" started moving off store shelves.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:00 AM
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4. Pink Floyd - Piper at the Gates of Dawn
Shows the mad genius that is Syd Barrett. Shine On you crazy diamond.
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quispquake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:03 AM
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6. Yup...Piper...
It's their best album by a long shot...and one of my top ten of all time...

pp23
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ChompySnack Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:01 AM
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5. Led Zeppelin
That first album is amazing
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StrongBad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:04 AM
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7. Good choice
I agree Led Zeppelin I is an excellent blues-rock treat.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:04 AM
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8. The Cars
They hit it straight outta the ball park their first time at bat.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:05 AM
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9. Talking Heads '77
n/t
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:07 AM
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11. Good Pick!
Or Elvis Costello "My aim is True"
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:38 AM
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43. Another good pick!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:05 AM
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10. Van Halen


Every song a classic, still the standard that other hard rock debut albums are judged by.
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:11 AM
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13. Oh yeah, monster album
Dire Strait's first release was around the same time, the two were an embarrassment of riches for guitar players.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:12 AM
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14. Led Zep I
Easily the best rock album debut.

Also Radiohead "The Bends". Yeah, I know that Pablo Honey was their first release but it wasn't really an album so much as just a bunch of songs they had recorded and slapped together for their record company.

Also, Ministry "With Sympathy" stands out for some reason. LOL!!!
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:12 AM
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16. Three
Dire Straits (self-titled)
Ricki Lee Jones (self-titled)
Elvis Costello "My Aim is True"
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:13 AM
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17. well, if album sales mean anything ...
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:16 AM
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19. Using that criteria........
You must think that McDonalds is the best restaurant in the world.
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:17 AM
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20. Nope.
Edited on Tue Aug-26-03 09:18 AM by dawg
But I do like the Boston album, even though that makes me "uncool". (And those new premium salads ARE tasty!)
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RememberJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:00 AM
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32. I love Boston, that was a killer album, and sales do matter...
..after all, we are talking about the music BUSINESS and the BUSINESS is to sell albums.

Yeah, I know there are circumstances that skew sales like record promotion and radio airplay.

Yeah, I know there are those who don't think sales mean anything.

No, I don't think the huge selling BackStreet Boys album is a classic. But some people do.

We all have our opinions on what we feel is the best debut albums for one reason or another. My list doesn't contain all big sellers, but some of my are monster sellers.

Van Halen I
Mariah Carey - Vision of Love
The Beatles - Please Please Me
The Cars - The Cars
Funkadelic - Funkadelic
Run-D.M.C. - Run-D.M.C.
Ozzy - Blizzard of Oz
Allman Brothers Band - Allman Brothers Band
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:18 AM
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21. Jagged Little Pill
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RememberJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:01 AM
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33. Not trying to be funny here but...
...was this really her debut album or her American debut?
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:19 AM
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22. The Whole World is Watching....
Hmmmm...I guess in the world of popular music it would have to be "Chicago Transit Authority". The first time I heard the album, I had just bought it and was over my best friend's house in his basement, we had copped a few beers from his dad's bar and were feeling a but spiffled when that last track just nailed us to to our chairs...

"The whole world is watching,
the whole world is watching,
the world is watching..."
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:30 AM
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24. Guns'N'Roses Appetite for Destruction
At the time, that album got me excited about music again.

A great album, which pretty much sparked the popular revival of hard rock/metal. (I know the music wasn't metal, but the hard rock at the time was often erroneously called metal, sometimes 'pop metal' for the radio-friendly poppier stuff--the stuff I usually didn't like.)
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rjbcar27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:13 AM
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36. 2nd for Appetite for Destruction
Still in my top 5 favourite albums. And still selling very well.
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Squeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:35 AM
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25. Freak Out! by the Mothers of Invention
It was a watershed. (Actually it was a massive pie in the face for everybody who thought rock'n'roll was disposable teenage music!) Edgard Varese sensibilities with electric guitars, doo-wop vocals, and explicit sympathy for alternative lifestyles.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:37 AM
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26. The Pretenders
First album, self-titled. Good stuff.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:50 AM
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29. I like that one a LOT.
:thumbsup:

especially opening with "Precious". Kick ass!
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:39 AM
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27. "Murmur" by R.E.M.
Edited on Tue Aug-26-03 09:43 AM by mac56
I know that first they issued an EP, "Chronic Town", but "Murmur" was their first actual LP.


Honorable mention: "Music From Big Pink" by The Band.


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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:48 AM
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28. The Doors
Break on Through
Soul Kitchen
20th Century Fox
Light My Fire
The End
Back Door Man
etc.
And this was 1965.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:02 AM
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34. Great pick, Toby109, but 'The Doors' was released in January, 1967.
Granted, much of the music was written and arranged around 1965, but keep in mind, it was pretty different from what was actually recorded. The producer and sound engineer had a great deal to do with the Doors sound.
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Toby109 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:40 AM
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44. Oops!
You are correct, sir or ma'am! I'll stay with that pick anyway.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 09:57 AM
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31. "Roxy Music" or Television's "Marquee Moon"
The first Roxy album still sounds startling fresh, and "Marquee Moon" is the only release from that particular scene (NY/CBGB) that I still listen to frequently.
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ohmyman1 Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:09 AM
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35. album
two words. MILLI VINILLI
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ZoCrowes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:13 AM
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37. My vote
Definitely Maybe by Oasis
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:15 AM
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38. Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced?
Returned rock to jarring assault, the sort of wrecking of sensibilities not heard since the likes of Chuck Berry, Elvis, and Little Richard. The dawn of proto-metal.
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:17 AM
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39. Pretty Hate Machine...
NIN!
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:19 AM
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41. Elvis Presley's self-titled debut LP (RCA, 1956)

That's the album that showed America that rock 'n' roll was *not* just a passing fad. As such, it has to be the most important debut album of all time. And yes, one of the greatest, too.
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:37 AM
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42. Kevin Gilbert's "Thud"
Technically, he had two or three albums out before this one, but this was his debut album as a solo artist.
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dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-26-03 10:42 AM
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46. He was talented.
It's a shame he's no longer with us.
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