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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:09 PM
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has anyone seen the original "manchurian candidate" with
Angela Lansbury and Frank Sinatra? I got it today and I'm getting ready to watch it.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:11 PM
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1. Get ready for a fine movie-viewing experience, then.
You'll never look at a playing card the same way again.
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The Great Escape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:17 PM
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3. Raymond Shaw
is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:58 PM
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9. And deep down inside I feel that... But I know it's not true
Raymond Shaw isn't difficult to like... HE'S IMPOSSIBLE TO LIKE!
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:16 PM
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2. One of my favorite all time movies.
Enjoy. I can't wait to see the new version and wonder if it will have the same affect on my soul.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:29 PM
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25. Saw it last week...
it is totally different in many ways, but even more topical -- this version is an expose of Bush & Co. and the media. I was blown away -- Demme is someone who was clearly up on everything this administration has been up to and lays it out there in every scene.
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:17 PM
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4. great flick....
strap in and enjoy
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:28 PM
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5. thanks for the
"reviews" I had heard a few things about it, so till further ado:)
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:30 PM
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6. One of the best movies ever made...
seriously.

And note that Angela Lansbury was 3 years older than Laurence Harvey and played his mother.
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Chuletas Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:34 PM
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7. fabulous
Great movie, thought I read somewhere that all of Sinatra's scenes were done in one take and one of them with a broken hand. Along with fail safe, my two favorite movies of this time period.

It must have been a very strange movie for it's time.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:36 PM
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8. And on a similar note, in North by Northwest
Cary Grant's mother was played by Jessie Royce Landis, who was only *two* years older than he was!
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:09 PM
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11. Anne Bancroft was 7 years older than Dustin Hoffman...
...when she played Mrs. Robinson to his Benjamin in "The Graduate." And Kate Hepburn was 25 years older than Peter O'Toole when she played his wife in "The Lion In Winter."

Good acting's good acting.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 01:15 AM
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17. But in "The Lion In Winter" she played Eleanor of Aquitaine who was older
Eleanor of Aquitaine really was older than Henry the Deuce. They were 11 years apart, not 25, but the types matched pretty good. By the by, Eleanor outlived Henry and Kate outlived Peter O'Toole, despite the age differences. Hard livin' takes the years out of you for sure.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 08:51 AM
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22. Except that Peter O'Toole is still alive...
his birthday was 2 days ago (he's 72).
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:33 AM
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15. Angela Lansbury was also only ten years older than Elvis when she
played his mother in Blue Hawaii, released the year before The Manchurian Candidate. She seems to have made a career out of that.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:32 PM
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28. Wow! I didn't know that!
Angelea was very pretty when she was young and even though she really isn't so old in this movie, she has that middle age lady look that lasted over 25 years. Not much different then as when she played "Murder She Wrote". At any rate, she's a great actor too.
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 09:59 PM
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10. Yes; great film!
I saw a restored print of it theatrically circa 1990. Well worth a viewing! :thumbsup:
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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:17 PM
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12. Enjoy! What a super-cool movie. Extra credit for you if you...
...get the Heinz reference first time. I had to see it twice to notice.
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-04 10:35 PM
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13. One of my favorite movies evar.
I never really knew Frankie could act so good until I saw that movie. And Angela plays such an evil woman.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:15 AM
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14. just finished watching it and
wow! Angela Lansbury is pure evil. What a creepy movie. I'm wide awake looking over my shoulder.:freak:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 01:07 AM
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16. Yeah,
It's pretty good, huh? I sort of envy anybody seeing it for the first time.
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Elginoid Donating Member (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 01:45 AM
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18. look for Jilly's-
one of the scenes is filmed in a bar, and as Sinatra exits, the scene switches to an exterior shot of the tavern, and the sign above the door says "Jilly's"...
jilly rizzo was one of Sinatra's gofers, assistant, bodygaurd, what have ya...
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 02:07 AM
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19. Why don't you pass the time with a game of solitaire?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 07:36 AM
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20. You should read the book.
It's really good.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 07:46 AM
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21. Yup. I agree about the book. Richard Condon, the author...
was more explicit about the incestuous relationship between Raymond Shaw and his mother. You sure didn't see it in the film...back in 1962, Frankenheimer and George Axelrod, the screenwriter, wouldn't have dared put that in the film.

BTW...another great novel by Richard Condon is, of course, "Prizzi's Honor". Condon was a very good, entertaining author. :-)
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:25 PM
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24. The Demme version...
flirts with that much more than the original. Meryl and Liev share a kiss, and we see Meryl pause in a way that shows she is contemplating more. The scene is cut at a point where it is left as a distinct possibility they were about to go (had gone?) further.
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:01 PM
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23. I watched the movie last week.
I'd never seen it before, but have a couple of criticisms.

Unless I was watching a version with some scenes excised, I couldn't figure out why Frank Sinatra's character Ñ after a fistfight with Raymond in one scene Ñ was his best buddy in the next.

Angela Lansbury's husband's character was woefully overplayed and overacted.

There wasn't much (any) motive or background explanation as to why Lansbury's character was in cahoots with the evil Commies. Just the old "power for power's sake".
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:29 PM
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26. It's very good
I saw it when I was around 13 and saw it again on PBS a week ago. Pretty sad and quite chilling too but L. Harvey is a great actor.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 12:30 PM
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27. In my top 5!
How about a nice game of solitaire
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resident bunnypants Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-04 01:08 PM
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29. I thought the director did a much better job than in the remake. n/t
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