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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 06:00 PM
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OMG, I nearly bought a Star Trek book today!
It looked good. It was a Captain Sulu adventure where he had to do some typical Star Trekkie plot, but I always liked Sulu and the typical STar Trekkie plot sounded like one of the ones I'd normally like...

But when they had listed Sulu's crew and it included TUVOK :wtf:, I immediately put it aside. Tuvok was NOT a part of Sulu's crew. Tuvok may have been haphazardly and incongruously grafted into ST6 via a very shitty Voyager episode (weren't they all though?) but Tuvok has nothing to do with Trek VI whatsoever and only cheapens the original movie, which I'm sure was part of Rick Berman's grand plan for making sure nobody ever watches the Kirk era ever again! :tinfoilhat:


Then there are the Doctor Who books, which have some fetish of incorporating sex as often as possible because the TV show was mature enough to avoid the topic, so I'm avoiding them too. :-(

Pity there aren't Blake's 7 novels, but judging by the current level of sci-fi out there, they'd just cheapen the B7 characters and have sappy space opera plots.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 06:20 PM
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1. I thought the ST writers had to follow a "bible"
that's pretty strict...but there can be time shifts.

No kids of major characters, or love interests of main characters, unless they die.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 06:49 PM
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5. No, the books are considered non-canonical
so the writers have more freedom to playu around with characters and explore. The "bible" is only for the show writers, but after roddenberry died, Rick Berman burned it to hell anyway, so it doesn't matter any more (cf., Voyager, Enterprise).

There are some really good ST books out there, and most are readable and fun, but not exceptional. one I really liked was a story in which the Enterprise crew ended up a planet of cat-people, and featured Uhura in a starring role. Really well written, and a great story. I'd say I've read about 50 TOS and TNG books, and never hit one that I threw away.

Never read DS9 or any other book, though.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 06:55 PM
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6. Yeah, Rick Berman
I don't know whether he was a blessing or a curse to the franchise.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 06:27 PM
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2. Had you bought and read the book
you'd have discovered that Tuvok was a very young man and it was long before Voyager....he was just starting out...and that Sulu had had his own command for years by this time.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 06:31 PM
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3. I remember a good one
Well, not good. Interesting.

The name is "How Much for Just the Planet? "

It tried to make a Star Trek Hitchhiker's Guide - naturally it failed ; but I found it highly enjoyable.

Of course I was in High School at the time...
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 06:41 PM
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4. Well I have most of the
Star Trek books...and while there are some clunkers amongst them...on the whole they're better than any of the series.

Maybe because they're not restricted by time out for commercials, and what was doable with special effects at any given time.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 08:04 PM
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8. John M Ford wrote "How Much for Just the Planet"
& I agree, it's quite entertaining.

Ford is a frustratingly non-prolific writer who's produced 2 fine novels: "The Dragon Waiting" (alernate history set in a dark Renaissance Europe) & "The Last Hot Time" (noiresque with elves).

He also writes poetry: "Winter Solstice: Camelot Station" won the Rhysling Award.
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Wickster Donating Member (261 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 11:29 AM
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13. You were right
"How much for Just the Planet" was pretty good as I remember. I'll have to look and see if I still have it.

A couple of William Shatner's SF books were highly readable, too.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-31-03 07:00 PM
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7. If you want to read a REAL GOOD Trek novel, then
read "Generations". When I say it brings Kirk and Picard together, don't freak-- it does it in a logical manner that doesn't go against the Trek universe. I believe it to be the best Trek novel ever published.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:50 AM
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9. Tuvok WAS part of sulus crew
Edited on Mon Sep-01-03 11:08 AM by Kamika
Its described pretty detailed. And if you look closely at the start of st6 you can see him give tea to sulu

Anyway buy ashes of eden. It involves Sulu and is possibly the best trek book i ever read
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 10:59 AM
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10. I don't notice much sex in Doctor Who books
Maybe I am just so used to the amount of sex there is in most movies and other books that it does not seem significant at all. Which ones are you referring to? I've read other science fiction books with three or four full blown sex scenes in them, which are definitely absent from the Dr. Who books that I have read.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 11:23 AM
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11. One of the best Trek books...
Is also one of the funniest.

"Q-In-Law."

Q decides to romance Lxwana Troi, (Deanna's mother) and gives her the powers of a Q.

Of course, Q being Q, he pulls his arrogant act in front of Lxwana.
She beats the shit out of Q. :D

And there is this terrific line in it.

Lxwana is blasting Q all over the place, literally playing paddle ball with him, and Riker asks half-jokingly asks what they are going to do about it.

Worf says, "Sell tickets." :D
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-01-03 11:26 AM
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12. My all time favorite Trek books...
Shatner's series "Ashes of Eden" and the follow-ups.

"Strangers From The Sky."

"Dark Mirror"

"The Dominion War" series.
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