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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:21 PM
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Poll question: Which type of government do you prefer?
1776 Great Britain: King George took all the peoples' money and oppressed the religious freedoms of the impovershed people.

2004 America: King Gorge gives tax cuts to those who take all the peoples' money, impovershing them as a result, and oppresses the people with his idea of religion.

I'm not including a third option because it's rather obvious that people will vote for it. I would too. With only the above choices, which do you prefer if forced to live with one of them?
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:24 PM
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1. 1776 King George was also trying to protect Native American lands
and slavery would have ended sooner under his reign.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:34 PM
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2. Hmmm...
I know nothing of King George '76 trying to protect Native American lands. Do you have any links on this? They would be of great reading.

But I do know that Great Britain ended slavery in the early 1800s, partially because they wanted to insult the United States and its Constitution (which purportedly talks of freedom and other mostly unobtainable concepts). I couldn't blame them, though I wish their intentions hadn't been fettered by American hypocrisy.

Without the war of France and against the impudent Americans of the time, who knows what King George '76 would have accomplished, good, bad, or otherwise...

But King George '04 is a throwback to the Stone Age... King George '76 is vastly preferable either way (though I prefer my third option, which is to wake the people up and counter the greed this society proclaims as 'freedom'... :D )
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:44 PM
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3. I thought....
...that the Native American issue was an early source of tension between GB and the colonies. GB originally promised to halt colonization west of the Appalachians, but the Americans protested strongly, believing they had a right to the land.

Here we go, the Royal Proclamation of 1763:
http://www.bloorstreet.com/200block/rp1763.htm

Granted, I think most people, British, American, or otherwise, generally treated Native Americans like crap.
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DODI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:53 PM
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7. I had heard this on Rebels & Redcoats on PBS and found
this info at the NPS website:

"The British government had afforded Indian lands a measure of protection by the Royal Proclamation of 1763 which had attempted to restrict colonial expansion beyond the Appalachian Mountains, and had alienated many American colonists. Indians knew that the Revolution was a contest for Indian land as well as for liberty."

http://www.nps.gov/revwar/about_the_revolution/american_indians.html

I found it very interesting.

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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:38 PM
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13. And that
Edited on Sat Aug-07-04 10:39 PM by tx.lib
probably explains why the vast majority of Indian tribes sided with England.
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:44 PM
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4. I gotta vote for 2004...
...in a couple of months we can kick him out of office. It wasn't possible to kick King George '76 without starting a revolution.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:55 PM
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10. In theory... but do you think they'll let their power go so readily?
They allowed 9/11 to happen.

They use it at every opportunity to do the things they want.

Sorry. While I hope he gets kicked out, something is going to happen. :tinfoilhat: Maybe I've been sold on what other DUers have said, I dunno...
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RoeBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 09:02 PM
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12. I don't look good in tinfoil...
...so I've never worn the hat. I expect Kerry in and Bush out in November.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:45 PM
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15. I don't recall
Edited on Sat Aug-07-04 10:51 PM by tx.lib
reading anything about King George murdering his own people, and using the, say, Barbary Pirates as scapegoats. And we tend to ignore the fact that a lot of the taxes he imposed, were a legitimate effort to retreive some of the monies Britain had shelled out protecting our asses from the French. You remember the French - with whom we were at war between 1755 and 1763, our allies in the Revolution, and with whom we were (again) at war by 1798 - anyone heard of the "XYZ" Affair, and the Quasi-War against France?
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:45 PM
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5. And both King George's were completely insane.
History again repeats itself, but we never learn the lesson.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:45 PM
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6. how about NEITHER
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:54 PM
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8. Voted 2004!
This "king" we have now will be forced to step down in Jan05! Although neither king was elected, the English King was expected to rule for life. "W" wasn't elected the first time and he will continue his losing sfreak, this time people will not stand for a stolen election.

Plus we have flush toilets in our time, just what did those poor folks do in 1776?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:57 PM
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11. In 1776,
weren't people led to believe that cleaning up after the King was an honor?

The poor folks just had outhouses... :hurts:
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 08:55 PM
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9. I thought we were an Anarcho-Cynicalist Commune...
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galadrium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:40 PM
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14. At least we can vote this George out
USA is far better... even with W.
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libhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-04 10:58 PM
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16. Guess I'm just
Edited on Sat Aug-07-04 10:59 PM by tx.lib
a diehard Loyalist - maybe I should have been born in Canada?
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