Admit it. You love Quark.

I just redid a wall calendar last night for 2005 that was in Q4 and is now in IDCS; looking back on my logs, it took less than half the time to align the rules alone :-) To hell with Quark, hell I say!

We're upgrading our DTP office to OSX, and I'm required by the boss to study ID3 versus Quark 6. I think I know already what the answer is going to be.

I'm tired of Quark.

that if you are doing book-length work, especially if it's 4- or 4-plus colors, you might want to consider holding off on the switch until some prepress bugs are worked out. And I once had Arial OpenType switch out on me at the printer. Good luck.

I'm mostly a fan, but there's a lot of quirks. Most annoying are that text imported from Nisus often doubles itself, or nearly doubles itself, in unpredictable ways -- that and Quark seems to unexpectedly quit about twice a week. :thumbsdown:

...like there's an expected quit. :eyes:

The newspaper I work for is going to stop using QuarkXPress early next year and start using InDesign instead. There are a few computers set up in the newsroom with InDesign installed on them, and I'm supposed to start learning InDesign now, or soon. I know QuarkXPress inside and out, backwards and forwards. I've been using it for several hours every day since 1990. Do you have any advice for me as to the best way to go about learning InDesign and making the transition? How much of a mental shifting of gears is it? I learned QuarkXPress from a book. There are several InDesign books in the bookstore in the mall now. I would prefer the Adobe "Classroom In a Book" ones, because the information comes "straight from the horse's mouth," so to speak, and also because of the included CD, but the $45 price is somewhat off-putting. There are other InDesign books there for $24.99 and $21.99. Probably the feature I like most about QuarkXPress is the measurements pallette. It is SO useful! I use it all the time to do all sorts of things -- moving things, lining them up, sizing them, scaling them, spacing them out, etc., etc. And the measurements pallette is the only calculator I've ever seen that will make calculations in picas and points, instead of picas and tenths of a pica. Does InDesign have anything comparable to the QuarkXPress measurements pallette? Do you have any comments or advice?

And incidentally, was the person who started this thread talking about the desktop publishing software or the Star Trek character?

Ron

but I replied, little-sister-fashion, to HeyHey's jab at InDesign (which I say with all love and care, Jeremy).

If you have been working with PShop and Illustrator, you are halfway there; the look and feel of the GUI is the same. Also, in InDesign's preferences, there is an option that will set the program to use Quark's keyboard shortcuts, which I cannot recommend strongly enough. Plus, InDesign will work with 0p0 measures, just like Quark. As you are in a newsroom setting, I'd also recommend checking out InCopy for the writers, which is a word processor that also acts as a copyfitter.

As for book-learnin', I think I'd recommend any of the Peachtree books, though I don't know what their price ranges are. Also, if you are near a bookstore with a well-fed magazine rack, check to see if there is anything there. I have a friend who just was showing me a few days ago a special issue of a UK magazine that was devoted to PShop CS; I'm sure an InDesign one is either out or in the works.

My fonts are all fucked by the transition to OSX anyway, but I'm curious to know.

No bad translations yet. The most complex document I opened and reworked in InDesign was 4-color, 96 pages long, and had tables, sidebars, and photos. There were, oh, probably about 6 or 8 style sheets, which to me isn't that many; plus none were built off of any of the others, so if you have docs like that, you may encounter some screwed up styles. But that's just my educated guess.

ps - Guy, I'm so sorry for hijacking your thread! I guess we layout wonks are hungering for a liberal forum in which to discuss this industry-shaking transition...

n/t

I thought it was a print layout application!

:headbang:
rocknation

;)

About a garbage scow in space...featuring the Doublemint Twins as clones!!! Richard Benjamin was in it too...I remember really enjoying it during it's brief run...

Seems clear to me that Quark and the Ferengi are patterned after the archetypal greedy Jewish business person.

I'm honestly not sure which one you mean. You might have included the big picture of the Star Trek character as a humorous reference to the desktop publication software, or because he is literally the "Quark" you're talking about.

Ron