Strangest weather report I have EVER heard. IVAN back in Gulf!

It was on Greenville, SC's WYFF at 6:15 tonight. Their highly respected meteorologist, John Cessarich, put up a graphic and discussed Ivan moving back into the Gulf through the Florida Straights. Since they had just done re-runs of Hugo's landing in 1989, I thought at first that this was a re-run of last weeks IVAN news. But it wasn't! It was not hurricane Ivan, it was the tropical low remnant of Ivan. WTF? I thought Ivan was fucking up Kennebunkport. I watched the tail-end weather update and checked the WYFF website: NOTHING.

So, I called the WYFF newsroom. The woman that answered said that John Cessarich was standing right there. I talked with this guy (he really is great) for 15 minutes. I explained that I am a retired airline captain (implies a higher level of weather knowledge) and a ham radio operator (ditto). Then I told him about the tornado up here last Thursday night, spawned by Ivan. Then I asked him about his report that Ivan is back in the Gulf of Mexico.

John Cessarich of Channel-4 told me that Ivan had looped off-shore in Virginia and was picked up as a wave in this strong clock-wise flowing high that has given us this great deep-blue sky and cool temperatures. Cessarich and I talked on and he said that certain models show this low reforming as another tropical storm or worse in the Gulf.

This is wild! This is unheard of! If this low reforms into a tropical storm, will it be named Ivan? Renamed? I see psychological problems with another IVAN any time soon. Especially in NC.

Our local weather guy was talking about it yesterday and said it may re-develope.

They do whacky things sometimes.

Seems kinda loose and cool like most Dems, not too uptight like the
you-kno-hoos.

"implies a higher level of weather knowledge" I thought that was funny.

Cessarich gave me his direct number and invited me to drop by the studio. He wants to see my photos of a tornado in Georgia during that 1000-tornado day in April 1974. He was also very interested in our tornado up here late Thursday or early Friday nights. I love talking weather. Keeps me off politics.

The remnants of Ivan dumped a bunch of rain on my condo in Boca last night and I had water in my living room this morning. There was an inch of water in the lobby and the pool was overflowing. We didn't have this much water from Frances and that was almost a direct hit. I, for one, am so exhausted from this weather and everything being WET all the time.

I've lived in Florida my whole life and never seen anything like this. We were without power for almost 2 weeks - that has never happened before and we were unprepared. Nobody can convince me that global warming isn't to blame.

Oh well, I guess the cost is worth it to watch the sun come up every morning over the beautiful Atlantic Ocean.

Peace.

and of course Jeanne is looping back on herself

and into the Gulf where it may gather strength again. http://hurricanetrack.com has been discussing this for days.

and we couldnt cause there was no sun...I was wondering what was going on...Ivan, again!!

I don't know any examples offhand for this happening so late in the life cycle, but it's theoretically possible. Apparently Lenny in 1999 went from a category 2 down to a category 1 and then back up to 2 again. And Alberto in 2000 travelled almost all the way across the Atlantic, gaining and losing hurricane status 3 times! I'm going to look up how many storms have been upgraded after having hit the continental US and gone from hurricane back down to TS.

http://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/forecasts/1999/nov99/
http://www.weathernotebook.org/transcripts/2000/10/26.html
http://www.ci.portsmouth.va.us/eoc/formation.asp

doing up on "Whiskey Run." Was thinking about you through the hurricanes as our DU'er in the Mountains.

Yes...it's really weird..this hurricane. As a person who grew up in the South, I never heard of a hurricane reforming.

Welcome to the "Global Warming" no one wants to talk about in Bush America. We all know somethings wrong with our weather...those of us who've been around long enough to notice...and this just "ain't normal."

I heard Ashville was flooded with Francis or Charley, and a mountain came down with Ivan and 13 counties in Western NC had bad flooding...how did you do over there. NC myself here, but Piedmont where we've had our destruction with Fran about five years ago and live in fear ever since..

Turning around in the Middle of the Atlantic in a few days and heading for Florida...and East Coast...banging head against keyboad...



and the "discussion." :eyes:


Hurricane Jeanne Discussion Number 34

Statement as of 11:00 PM EDT on September 21, 2004


multi-channel IR images clearly shows the eye of Jeanne and although
the cloud pattern appears to be a little better organized...
T-numbers remain at 4.5 on the Dvorak scale. Maximum winds area
kept at 80 knots but a reconnaissance plane will check the
intensity of Jeanne in a few hours. According to the global
models...the shear over Jean is currently the strongest and
unanimously all models develop an upper-level anticyclone over
Jeanne during the next 2 to 3 days. This pattern would provide a
little more favorable environment for jeane to strengthen slightly
during that period...as indicated in the official forecast.


The hurricane has been drifting southward or about 175 degrees at 3
knots. Steering currents are expected to remain weak so...Jeanne
will likely meander for the next 12 to 24 hours. Thereafter...a
rather large mid-level anticylone is forecast to develop over the
eastern United States and the western Atlantic. This feature will
probably force Jeanne to move on a slow west-to west-northwest
track. Jeanne should then turn northward not too far from the U.S
East Coast as the high continues eastward. The official forecast
follows the global model consensus rather closely. There is a little
more confidence in the forecast now that the GFS has joined the
rest of the global models and the GFDL in moving Jean west and
northwestward. The latest scenario is a little more of a threat
for the southeast U.S coast but it is too soon to tell.

http://www.usatoday.com/weather/wfujiwha.htm




The "Fujiwhara Effect"

Chicago this month has had one semi-decent rainfall. This has been the driest September I can remember. Also, we have had more 80 degree and sunny days than in June, July or August this year.

I hope that you don't get hit by Ivan again. How many years do you now have firewood for?