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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:28 PM
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This has to be the stupidest joke I have ever heard.
Father-Daughter Talk

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat and was for distribution of all wealth.

She felt deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, which she expressed openly. One day she was challenging her father on his beliefs and his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the addition of more government welfare programs. Based on the lectures that she had participated in and the occasional chat with a professor she felt that for years her father had obviously harbored an evil, even selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.

The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father.

He stopped her and asked her point blank, how she was doing in school. She answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain. That she studied all the time, never had time to go out and party like other people she knew.

She didn't even have time for a boyfriend and didn't really have many college friends because of spending all her time studying.

That she was taking a more difficult curriculum.

Her father listened and then asked, "How is your good friend Mary doing?"

She replied, "Mary is barely getting by." She continued, "She barely has a 2.0 GPA," adding, "and all she takes are easy classes and she never studies." "But Mary is so very popular on campus, college for her is a blast, she goes to all the parties all the time and very often doesn't even show up for classes because she is too hung over."

Her father then asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct a 1.0 off your 4.0 GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0." He continued, "That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA."

The daughter visibly shocked by her father's suggestion angrily fired back, "That wouldn't be fair! I worked really hard for mine, I did without and Mary has done little or nothing, she played while I worked real hard!"

The father slowly smiled, winked and said, "Welcome to the Republican Party."

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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:31 PM
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1. Completely false premise.
Capitalist economics is hardly a level playing field. It operates on the golden rule "Those with the gold, make the rules."

Typical wrong wing prevarication. Fuck those lying bastards.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:35 PM
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2. Here's a better fable for you
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 09:41 PM by jpgray
There are two baseball teams of equal athletic ability. One has been practicing for years, and is familiar with all the equipment. The other has scarcely had the opportunity to play a single game and have only had the briefest contact with bat, ball and glove.

Now these two teams play each other, and whoever loses gets crappier coaches, worse equipment, and less time to practice.

Welcome to our education system. :)
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:36 PM
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3. Bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit!
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 09:38 PM by RandomKoolzip
I've worked two full time fucking jobs most of my adult life and have almost zero to show for it. I know lots of kids I grew up with who never had to work because their dads were surgeons. Totally false premise. As if most of those republican CEO's earning 40 mil a year actually work really hard at their jobs (sheeeeyeah, right!)

The amount of work you do has NOTHING to do with how much money you earn. If so, those Mexican dishwashers I work with would be millionaires right now.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:38 PM
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5. CEO's work heh
I so felt like saying that during a poli sci debate over taxes, "If you earn it, you should keep it", how do you earn 40 million at a desk, and laying people off, and barking orders.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:40 PM
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10. According to Business Weekly
In 1980 the average CEO made about 40 times what their average worker made. In 1990 this douled to 80-some times, and in 2001 it ballooned to 541 times.

Clearly, the workers are just getting lazier and the CEOs are working harder.

:dunce:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:42 PM
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12. Yeah, that's gotta be it.
:eyes:

This is what happens when the corporations hire their own regulators. It's like asking the elephants to guard the ants.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:47 PM
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16. The Republicans are allowed to get away with Joe-Sixpac coroporatism
They put forth the fantasy that cutting costs for corporations through tort reform, denying Medicare the ability to negotiate drug costs, deregulation, et al will cause the corporations to say 'oh, okay, we have enough, time to create new jobs, lower prices, move the factories back here and start giving back to the community!' And the media let them get away with it, and the Democrats need the money and media help too, so they don't attack it effectively.

The way we win is to break fully with the idea that we can compete with the Republicans for the elite--we can't, unless we become them, because on pro-corporate politics, they beat us every time. We need to find an approach that is effective building from the working class, not copy the one the Republicans built off the elite.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:52 PM
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18. I love how Naolmi Klein put it:
The owners of these start-up companies earn shitloads of money, and instead of rewarding the employees with raises and stock options, they invest in franchising their company.

TRICKLE DOWN DOESN"T WORK because it assumes that all people have consciences.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:43 PM
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14. It was hard to sleep with my secretary/mistress!
I worked day in and day out so I could get in her skirt, and those lousy workers, who are hurting themselves, getting sick, etc and getting laid off thanks to me are lazy good for nothing bums! I worked to seduce my secretary why can't they carry hazardous and heavy objects around for 40 hours a week :eyes: without complaining. heh kidding of course.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:38 PM
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4. No this one is even worse...
Why are there no Wal-Marts in Iraq?



Because they are all Targets.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:38 PM
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6. I've heard that one before
and it pisses me off every time.

It assumes that everyone who is poor is poor because they're partying and not showing up for work, and that everyone who is rich worked really hard all the time.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:38 PM
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7. Asinine
This assumes that those who make less money do so because they are lazy. That's the assumption it starts from. How can it be a worthwhile discussion if that's where it starts?
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:44 PM
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15. Let's give thanks to Ronald Reagan.
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 09:45 PM by tjwash
That's where all that "welfare queen", "homeless are that way because they want to be", "unemployment insurance is a safety net for the lazy" crap started.



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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:39 PM
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8. Yeah it is stupid.
The way that the dad wants the rules changed after he makes some money, never minding that the guy himself, probably got through school (assuming mommy and daddy didn't pay for it in the first place) with the use of low interest student loans and state and federal grants.

People tend to get that "fuck everyone else I got mine" attitude when they get a little more successful in life, and then they decide "hmm, okay, I've made a lot of money, it's time to change the rules so I don't have to share it with anyone or pay for any government services.

Hypocritical jagoffs, all of them.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:39 PM
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9. In their world...
someone who works from 9-5 making $200,000+/year works harder than someone working three jobs for minimum wage.

It's loverly.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:41 PM
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11. pretty delusional isn't it
Like it's so hard to lay people off, go golfing, etc. I am kidding of course, people who work min wage work harder in their lifetimes yet they won't see even a fraction of that CEO makes in their lifetime salaries, and that in my opinion is a tragedy, how is it that a guy like Ken Lay is a millionaire and your average worker is just trying hard to make ends meet.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:43 PM
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13. It's not a joke
(well, it is a joke because it's so dumb), it's the typical stupid Rebublican "fable" they use, along with apocryphal anecdotal stories, to make their idiotic points.

False logic, false premise, dumb dumb dumb, and I believe I have had this shit sent to me in my e-mail.
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:50 PM
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17. change Mary to "she has two jobs to pay for her tuition " instead
of a partier
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:57 PM
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19. I agree this is bullshit
I dismiss it with a wave of my hand...Bah! Humbug!
What is it with this anecdotal bullshit passing as truth anyways?
I could write more compelling propaganda than this!
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