DRAFT? H*LL NO, SHE WON'T GO!

It is election time so BOTH candidates say they will not push for the draft, BUT we know the plans have been set in motion and it is said that "if Bush says so", the draft will go into effect and within six months they will have the bodies they need to send to war! Bush lusts for caskets...I detest him! My daughter WILL NOT go... I understand college deferments will not be allowed nor Canada moves... so, jail is left? So be it! This is Bush's war - not ours... let him and his daughters fight it.
What say ye?

... what to do about our just 18 nephew.

I'm not sure yet how'd I feel with Kerry in office, but I'll do whatever I have to if * is reselected to keep my nephew from becoming another tick in *'s death counter. (That is, depending on the nephew's stance.)

At least according to current Selective Service rules. If a draft is initiated in 2005, anyone who turns 20 in that year will be in the first call-up (it won't matter if they're 19 when the call-up begins, only if 2005 is their "20" year). IIRC, after they've gone through the 20-year-olds they'll go to 21, 22, etc., up to 26, and THEN go to the 18s and 19s. Anyone who knows more about this, please feel free to correct me.

and unless Kerry changes his stance and decides that the U.S. should pull out now, we will have a draft regardless who is President.

That doesn't mean that things won't be better under Kerry, but circumstances are so dire now, there is no way there will not be a draft.

If Bush is elected, there will also be war with Iran, IMO, so the draft will be very far reaching.

What would I do? Combine the family resources and send the boy to college in Europe, or if he's not so inclined, be sure he learns a skill with electronics or mechanics so you can write your Congressman and request he not be placed on the front lines, like my grandmother did for my brother.

Is that viable? I mean, will that work because my daughter wants to go to Europe to study art... so hey, she can just MOVE there!! I would sell my home if need be to help her go there and stay...

then your daughter should begin learning the language of the country that she wants to escape too now . That way she will be more asorbed into the language and culture of the country . Good thing I already speak German . If there is a draft , this time I will be MOVING back there .

so they pretty well speak English.

But after what W has done to our military, they're going to need some incentive to get soldiers to enlist. And who's going to trust our President ever again? Bush lied to get us into war and suffered 0 consequences--not even an inquiry or a slap on the wrist by the other 2 branches. A President can now get away with starting a war for political gain. That's going to inhibit a lot of young kids from joining up.

Kerry is not the one with all the PNAC revolutionaries handling him. Can you imagine the hell that would break loose should Bush start a draft? That's why he'd do it slowly, drafting the health care and other professionals first. Then some 'incident' like 9-11 will happen and kids will want to sign up--but not nearly enough, so Bush will say he we have to have a draft for Merka's sake. All I know is that Mr. Death is going to want a whole lot of bodies, and soon. Killing people is his Viagra.

KERRY MUST WIN!

Boy, you got that in one!

Are they going to shut the border?

I'm considering employment elsewhere if asshole gets elected again, and I'll take my 17 year old with me. Can they actually deny me the right to leave?

BUT, they have said they will come get you... (if they can find ya, I suppose) and jail ya... I say BRING IT ON!!!!

THIS is serious stuff here.... if we were fighting a war against an enemy that had attacked us and we were in danger, hey, I am there... but this is Bush's plaything and it has cost way too many lives. I will NOT add my daughter or grandkids!!!!

proclaimed that they were gay if they were drafted?

It'd force the RW to rethink its position on gays in the military at least.

is a thought. Hmmmmmmm....

I believe it is to turn back draft evaders at the border, but it may be to return them to the U.S. -- not sure.

That's the plan and it's most likely going to work. The recent agreement makes it an illegal entry into Canada and supposedly, the Canadian government is going to enforce the law this time. A law friend actually explained the whole thing to me, even down to the a minuscule legal point where one who "draft dodges" to Canada could actually be labeled a terrorist under the Patriot Act and thus subject to arrest on foreign soil by agents of the United States Government.

The nightmare scenario is a complicit Canadian government that looks the other way when US Marshalls come in and haul war resistors back to the US to serve or face legal/death penalties (under a possible legal reading of the Patriot Act, it's possible to put someone to death for refusing to serve.) It will be reminiscent of the Nazi's rounding up Jews for the death camps.

Best move this time is to go to Mexico or Belize, if you ask me. The weather is much nicer, it's a hell of a lot cheaper, too. And the US would have a harder time trying to arrest war resistors in Mexico and Central America.

because I doubt there will be a deferment for congresspeople.

I suggest Brazil

they will draft women - and my daighter is 19!!!! Nazi Bush does not care what sex dies....

To enlist in the National guard in Texas. :)

ya better also have a rich daddy.