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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:46 PM
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Poll question: Favorite Serious Music
Edited on Fri Sep-12-03 01:18 PM by demnan
Seriously, I can't decide. But I couldn't live without Beethoven.

by the way, I didn't mean to offend by calling it Serious Music. But I couldn't call it Classical Music since I wanted you to pick among the various genres (please don't take offense at that term). :-)
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:47 PM
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1. Frank Zappa
The modern composer refuses to die - Edgar Varese

Cheers
Drifter
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:49 PM
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4. I think Frank falls under Later Modern
Wasn't he influenced a lot by John Cage?
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bbernardini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 01:05 PM
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14. Beat me to it!
:)
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:48 PM
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2. "Serious" music?
Huh?
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:48 PM
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Sorry my poll wasn't good enough for you
:evilfrown: btw, I can understand why you don't consider pop music serious but pop music is the type of music on top of the charts and I would thought some DUers would like the music. Guess I was wrong :evilfrown:
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:54 PM
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6. No this is just a different Poll thanks for the idea
please don't be offended - Serious is a term used for the music when you want to discuss genres other than classical.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:55 PM
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8. I am not offended
Edited on Fri Sep-12-03 12:55 PM by VermontDem2004
I thought the :evilfrown: would appear that I was posting with a sarcastic tone.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:48 PM
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3. Can't vote twice
Bach, Bach and Bach of course, but no Vivaldi et al no Bach.
I am a counterpoint and polyphony type. I like medieval as well.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:49 PM
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5. Mahler=TheBest
n/t
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:59 PM
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11. "Mahler's music is better than it sounds."
<---- this guy. :D
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:54 PM
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7. Lots of other genres that are "serious"
such as experimental (Phillip Glass, Radiohead, John Cage), and jazz.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:56 PM
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9. Yeah, yeah, Morton Feldman etc....
but that's another discussion altogether I'm afraid.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:57 PM
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10. No doubt, But I couldn't call it Classical
because that is just one era.

Actually I think Glass and Cage fall in the realm of the Later Moderns.

We ought to start a separate Jazz poll - we could look at all the decades of Jazz that way and see who likes what.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 01:15 PM
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16. Go for it.
Edited on Fri Sep-12-03 01:16 PM by bif
I've tried to get jazz discussions going in general and they all seem to die.
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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 12:59 PM
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12. What? No Debussy?
That would have been my vote.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 01:11 PM
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15. Sorry
but you certainly could put him with the Later Romantic Pianists as he wrote some of the most impressive Romantic piano pieces.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 01:04 PM
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13. I like some of them from all periods...
Bach, Mozart, Prokofiev, Chopin, Vivaldi... and many others... hard to say which one would be a fav, but I suppose I would have to say Mozart.
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rusty charly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 01:25 PM
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17. talking about serious music
and no Wagner?

It's the ring cycle all the way

the mount everest of music
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 01:44 PM
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18. Yes you are so right
Excuse me. (Course I would call him a lyrical modern and put him with Mahler and Shostakovich, wouldn't you?)

Even though he came about much earlier, I would say his music was so revolutionary as to have brought in the modern era.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:09 PM
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21. I'd say Beethoven's 9 (10?) symphonies are Everest enough
never mind the Missa Solemnis, sonatas, concertos et al.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 01:53 PM
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19. "Lyrical Modern"
I guess I'd put Debussy and Ravel in there with Prokofiev, Bartok, and Mahler... I find that category the most interesting myself; though I love them all.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:00 PM
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20. Couldn't vote. I got an error message that I already did -
but I didn't, so: Mozart is my first choice, then Beethoven and Bach as close seconds.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:18 PM
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22. I like all but 12 tone, but Romantic is my favorite
I love D'Vorak and Tchaikowsky. I despise 12 tone music, I had to play "American Triptich" at Interlochen and pretty much all the kids hated it. We did do "Billy the Kid" by Copeland, Tchaikowsky's Fifth Symphony, "Le Coq d'or" by Rimsky-Korsikov, and Mendolssohn's "Reformation" Symphony, which we all loved.

My favorite pieces of music are D'Vorak's works-the Romance for Violin and Orchestra is a beautiful work, and the Ninth Symphony (From the New World) is cool because he wrote it to teach americans how to use their own music in developing american music. He uses rifs from "Three Blind Mice" and old black spirituals, among other things. John Williams ripped off the 4th movement for the "Jaws" theme.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:24 PM
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23. What about
"The devil with the violin", Paganini? Cani I write-in?
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:30 PM
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24. Early music, please.
I'm all for Mozart, Schubert, and the rest of the gang. But I am hopelessly in love with early music -- madrigals, various settings of the mass, etc. Bring THAT on!
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:32 PM
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25. favorite serious music: reggae
Uh! Ya too rude!
Uh! Eh! What a rat race!
Oh, what a rat race!
Oh, what a rat race!
Oh, what a rat race!
This is the rat race! Rat race! (Rat race!)

Some a lawful, some a bastard, some a jacket:
Oh, what a rat race, yeah! Rat race!

Some a gorgon - a, some a hooligan - a, some a guine - gog - a
In this 'ere rat race, yeah!
Rat race!
I'm singin' that
When the cat's away,
The mice will play.
Political voilence fill ya city, ye - ah!
Don't involve Rasta in your say say;
Rasta don't work for no C. I. A.
Rat race, rat race, rat race! Rat race, I'm sayin':
When you think is peace and safety:
A sudden destruction.
Collective security for surety, ye - ah!

Don't forget your history;
Know your destiny:
In the abundance of water,
The fool is thirsty.
Rat race, rat race, rat race!

Rat race!
Oh, it's a disgrace
To see the human - race
In a rat race, rat race!
You got the horse race;
You got the dog race;
You got the human - race;
But this is a rat race, rat race!

===================================

Quite prophetic:

When you think is peace and safety:
A sudden destruction.
Collective security for surety, ye - ah!
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 02:40 PM
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26. Oh, man, cannot possibly choose.....
There's so much wonderful, amazing, beautiful stuff in all those period. Listen to Vaughan Williams' "Variations on a Theme from Thomas Tallis", then listen to the original Tallis - I think it's the third piece from a "Psaltry for ummmm Bishp Richards?". But for the past few days I've had the scherzo from Beethoven's 9th symphony stuck in my head, especially the contrabassoon solo. And the timpani solo - I think that's from the 4th movement. I saw a conductor cue the timpanist with his right elbow for that solo once.....
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-03 03:20 PM
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27. voted for the Russians, but that doesn't mean
I don't adore beethoven , Wagner, Puccini>Verdi and Brahams - don't get me wrong mozart is wondeful baroque in small doses like the Bminor mass -
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