Flamewar attempt: Abolishing the DH is not very progressive!

kick-ass-bob

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Mon Oct-25-04 09:32 AM
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Flamewar attempt: Abolishing the DH is not very progressive!

(this is a baseball thread - sorry!)

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Champ

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Mon Oct-25-04 09:36 AM
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1. Everyone that plays on defense

Should play on offense as well, Why aren't pitchers allowed to hit?

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kick-ass-bob

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Mon Oct-25-04 09:39 AM
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They are allowed!!

That is a common misconception!

Who would you rather have hit, though: David Ortiz or Pedro Martinez?

:)

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Champ

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Mon Oct-25-04 09:42 AM
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6. What I mean is

If Pedro can go out and play defense, he should be made to play offense. If they want someone to hit instead of Pedro, then you make the sub and take Pedro out of the game. :)

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chicagojoe

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Mon Oct-25-04 09:49 AM
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7. Yes, by rule the pitcher is "allowed" at bat, but when does it ever happen

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mosin

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Mon Oct-25-04 09:37 AM
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2. Wrong!

The Designated Hitter Rule is a right-wing plot to destroy the American pasttime! All progressives should oppose the Designated Hitter.

I know it is a hot issue, but I think Kerry should take a firm stand on this issue, regardless of the electoral consequences. It is a matter of principle.

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kick-ass-bob

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Mon Oct-25-04 09:41 AM
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5. WRONG! Only Republicans are strong on defense

and accordingly, pitching!
Bringing more offense is most definitely a democratic idea!!

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Zuni

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Mon Oct-25-04 11:04 AM
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18. Kerry would never oppose the DH

He is a Sox fan.

The RWers, who are much more aligned with the Corporate whores in the NL, are the ones who have tried to abolish the DH, much like they want to abolish the estate tax.

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chicagojoe

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Mon Oct-25-04 09:39 AM
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3. The DH rule is a pussy rule. Pitchers should go to bat.

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kick-ass-bob

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Mon Oct-25-04 09:39 AM
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4. are you calling progressives 'girly men?'

:P

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chicagojoe

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Mon Oct-25-04 09:50 AM
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8. The DH rule is not progressive. Where did anyone get that idea?

Edited on Mon Oct-25-04 09:54 AM by chicagojoe

I'm backing the Sox this year because I HATE the cards even more than I hate bush. I'm a CUBS fan. Generally, I consider the AL to be the "B" league. The DH rule is lame. Period.

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kick-ass-bob

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Mon Oct-25-04 09:51 AM
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9. it was my attempt to start a flame war.

So I did it like the Republicans do - pull something out of thin air!!!

Did it work?

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Zuni

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Mon Oct-25-04 11:00 AM
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14. A 'B' league???????

That is like saying the Democratic Party is a 2nd class party, you freeper.

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kick-ass-bob

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Mon Oct-25-04 09:57 AM
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10. I am always amazed at how people get up in arms about the DH

it's been here for 30 years, yet people who don't like it rail against it. I, for one, am quite indifferent to it. I like watching both leagues and respect the differences between them.

Those who like the DH - well, watch the AL.
Those who dislike it - well, watch the NL.

Then the WS comes, and they compromise.
Works for me. :shrug:

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BOSSHOG

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Mon Oct-25-04 10:02 AM
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11. LETS GET REAL PROGRESSIVE

Lets have an offense and a defense in baseball. Nine guys who hit and nine guys who play the field. Lets put in sand traps in the outfield and allow the outfielders to wear jetpacks so they can fly to catch flyballs. Let's use flourescent balls and play in blacked out stadiums. Lets let the fans vote and decide how defenders will play each batter. Lets get progressive. NOT!

Ban the sissy DH rule

Have pitchers take batting practice. Do ya think they'd have the time?

Ban artificial turf, ban domed stadiums

Each team must schedule at least 50 day games a year

NOW THAT WOULD BE PROGRESS!

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chicagojoe

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Mon Oct-25-04 10:12 AM
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12. Here, here BOSSHOG !

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curse10

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Mon Oct-25-04 11:02 AM
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15. I agree about artifical turf

that shit needs to go. No place for it. A good grounds crew can grow perfect grass anywhere.

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NoPasaran

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Mon Oct-25-04 10:22 AM
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13. Bushco*s whole strategy is staying on the offense!

Progressives favor a more balanced approach. The DH was an early example of PNAC in action.

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Zuni

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Mon Oct-25-04 11:02 AM
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16. The DH was done to help the less advantaged

in the hitting department. It is people like Tom Delay and Trent Lott who want to abolish the DH

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kick-ass-bob

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Mon Oct-25-04 11:03 AM
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17. Here they are!!!

I was wondering where the DH faction was - it's no fun to have a one sided flame war!!

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Yavin4

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Mon Oct-25-04 11:59 AM
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19. The DH Means More Players Get Work

Therefore, it's progressive. All progressives should support all labor no matter what that labor does. A baseball player is a laborer just like anybody else.

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