I'm addicted to this damn site. Why did I ever wander over here?

I keep running back for the latest opinion from some member of the DU crowd. And I frequently can't resist sharing an opinion of my own, like this one.

I have a confession to make, though. I supported the invasion of Iraq.

Why? Because I believed George Bush when he stood up in front of the country and told us that Saddam recently tried to buy yellow cake from Niger.

Don't get me wrong... after witnessing him stealing an election I couldn't really say I had a whole lot of trust in his word... but he mentioned the British, you see, and then in the following days the British didn't deny the account... so I was convinced there was a strong chance Bush was telling the truth on that score, and I didn't think this country should be running the risk of Saddam having nukes.
Bush wouldn't lie about something as serious as nuclear weapons, would he? The country would be OUTRAGED if his lie was exposed.

Well, my wife said I was a damn fool. That he was lying. I disagreed with my wife... "Not on this," I said. "He wouldn't dare. This country would skin that liar alive."

Well, it turns out I was pretty wrong on that, too. Only HALF the country wants him punished.

At the very least, I thought, if it turns out that Saddam had no WMD programs, we could at least feel good about getting rid of him for the Iraqis, who would welcome us with open arms.

Well, are you getting the pattern here? I was a damn fool. He lied about that, too.

Well, he's fooled me twice, but I won't be fooled again. He's an evil, evil person, and I am ashamed and furious that I ever trusted that scumbag.

Having bored you all with all of that, let me say that I don't know what I'm going to do with myself if Kerry does not win this election. I'm going to have to go into therapy or something.

but they have come around.

Serious contender for Worst Regime Ever.

Of course, they had to botch THAT, too.

welcome to DU !!!

You're a smart guy :)

:toast: :yourock: :hi:

My wife thinks I'm a dumbass. LOL

He voted for Judy Martz (Gov Mt - COMPLETE idiot!) My only advice is - listen to your wife - she sounds like a smart woman!

as you know, he DID lie and we ARE outraged. So you were right about that part.

shame on you, fool me twice ... I won't be fooled again."

To quote the Master of Disaster, GWB himself. Dude, I feel ya. I really do. Even though I never bought it, never approved ... that was ONLY because by that time I had been clued by friends in DoD that this was bullshit.

I predict if Bush is re-elected, he will have to eventually deal with a mutiny. The word is out. The brotherhood is pissed.

I didn't exactly support the war. All I kept thinking was "You better find those damn WMDs. You do NOT have a blank check dated 9/11." Damned if that isn't exactly what Bush thought he had.

So we all lived and learned.

I know, I'm addicted too. (thumps arm) But hey, I can stop anytime. Really. (haunted look)

There is a chance that everyone will be fooled by a liar like Bush at some point.

The key is learning from one's mistakes.

We must - and we will - drive that evil criminal from the White House, even if it takes every last drop of our energy.

I found DU about 6 weeks ago, and I have over 600 posts already. I feel like a junkie, but so glad I finally found this place. Rex, don't feel bad, a lot of people supported the war. At least you've seen the truth since then. An awful lot of people seemed determined to believe anything that comes out of that asshat's mouth.

And according to the lastest Bush excuse, we can now invade any country who even thought about producing WMD. This isn't the country I grew up loving. No due process, torture and lack of respect for the UN, profits over human rights.
God, I am sick of this and I want my country back.

After all, as Michael Moore says, "You're SUPPOSED to believe your commander in chief! ... All of us should be able to believe whatever comes out of our president's mouth. If we can't have that - at the very least THAT - then what are we left with?"

However, as Bush has attempted to say, and you did in fact say (more eloquently of course), "There's an old saying in Tennessee—I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee—that says, fool me once, shame on—shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again."

NEVER AGAIN, Mr. Bush.

Democracy is a set of beliefs, but also a process of enlightenment. Only those who come to the conclusion that they have responsibility to others around them and that every belief they have may be in fact wrong in light of new information through their own fruition will be true democrats (spelled as such). These people have a set of values that go beyond basic applied ethics/issue politics. Reasoning and self-realization are critical to this process. You cannot sell morality or understanding, or even give it away. It must be forged in everyone's mind on their own behalf. You must make the choice to consider these principles, but you must also figure them out by yourself without somebody whispering hints and suggestions in your ears.

I might need therapy. How many people tried to believe Bush, even when we knew he was a liar? And the media supported his lies every bit of the way. You married a very intelligent woman!

I thought the war was a very poor decision, but didn't ever believe that it would be a disaster.

I started logging on to DU during the debates, because of the great polling site media organization. I was up until the wee hours, hitting all of the polls with a vengeance. I had read a few articles by democratic underground when I did searches on Halliburton, war profiteering, etc., but didn't really know what it was. It is a great place.

I am addicted here to. I don't know why, but I only 1 more week and I don't have to come here until the mid terms. But it is like a drug, intimately invlovled. Also, as a journalist (sports writer) I find how the blogs tackled stories and use their collective brains to destroy the regualr media as astounding. It is not that the media is lazy or schilling, but they don't have the resources that hundreds of bloggers have or the mindpower. Really is humbling to watch how Drudge and freepers spinned the explosives story, and how TPM and DU rebutted them and destroyed their stories. All this happens in some kind of shadow war. It is boring all of u i bet, but I find it incredibly intersting.

This is democracy in action. Even if, God forbid, Kerry should lose this election, I am proud of all the calls to activism I see on this board. I share your fascination with the power of this collective grassroots reasoning and reporting.

What does TPM stand for?

The link is on the front page of du if you scroll down it's on the right side of the page.
<http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/>

could have been written by me!

"He's an evil, evil person, and I am ashamed and furious that I ever trusted that scumbag." You feel bad! Think how bad Kerry must feel?

I NEVER trusted the bastard and even went to candlelight vigils.

It's just going to get worse and then all of those people who voted
for him are going to have deep regret.

I understand Rex!

Even Bob Dole is here most of the time.

I should be in bed! Came here first after hearing someone mention the site on Air America (can only get it on my computer). Same as someone else said, started to frequent here during the debates. Now I find what little time I have on the computer I spend here. I heard (as I'm sure you know) Elizabeth Edwards reads this site, mentioned it on C-SPAN which is where I seem to spend much of my other time!).

MOST IMPORTANT...your comment about needing therapy if the worst happens. I am serious!!!! I have wrapped my life around this so much, working for Kerry and against Bush, I will have a breakdown! Don't even want to consider the possibility!!!!

I have never felt so strongly about an election. I hate, detest liers, and this entire administration is more about lying than truth. Until the debates, I didn't dislike Kerry, but I was mainly ABB. Now, I think he is awesome, and I can't imagine 50% of the people voting could not see the stark contrast. Intelligence, clarity, ethics, compassion, service? He has it all.

But win or lose, we addicts can log on to DU and rejoice or weep!

But it has made the days a little more bearable.

You're in for Good. :)

Welcome to the DU!

Well put, Liberty. From yet another addict. :D

"Theres no way out of here." I love it. Still LOL.

There's no way out of here, when you come in you're in for good
There was no promise made, the part you've played, the chance you took
There are no boundaries set, the time and yet you waste it still

So it slips through your hands like grains of sand, you watch it go
There's no time to be lost, you'll pay the cost so get it right
There's no way out of here, when you come in you're in for good

And never was there an answer, there an answer
Not without listening, without seeing

There are no answers here, when you look out you don't see in
There was no promise made, the part you've played, the chance you took
There's no way out of here, when you come in you're in for good

Lyrics David Gilmour

Even I was fooled by him, for a time. I even said, "Y'know, 9/11 might just be the thing to shock him into being a decent man."

It wasn't though... and it was painful, too, seeing someone pull the shit he's pulled over the last few years.

Welcome to DU, Rex. Good to have you here. Welcome to the Resistance.

You are addicted because it IS sane here. I haven't seen my bed till the wee hours of the morning for months. Once I know Kerry is President-elect for sure Kerry, I'm gonna crawl into that bed and sleep for 24 hours. Then guess where I'll be? ;)

As for being a damn fool, nah, you aren't. IF you voted for * this coming Nov. 2, then yes, you'd be a damn fool. So tell your wife you are as smart as can be because you've seen the light and it's coming from the Kerry/Edwards direction! :bounce:

And welcome to DU Rex_Goodheart! :hi:


ps. God forbid our guy doesn't win, the therapy will be right here too. Massive group therapy! :grouphug:

:hi: And great post!!! :D

Wait until you have spent countless hours on this site and too many posts to count.
I don't know what will happen after next week. I pray we don't need to keep slamming shrub here and can use this site to support Kerry.
Your hooked now, face the fact and enjoy the company

because I discovered this site... I too can't stay off.

Regarding the "fool me once"--no one says it better than the fool himself:

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to get on my PC and read topics here at DU ! I dont have to be at work till 9:00A.M. I get in bed at 10:00P.M. ,so that gives me 6 hours sleep ,however I really should sleep a full 8 hours ,like the topic of this post Iam addicted to this site and to watching whats going on with this most important of elections. Iam begging everyone to do everything they can to insure a Kerry victory ,at 47 years old and a life long Dem. Iam going to my first politicial rally this coming Friday,. Its a pro Kerry rally held at a busy intersection in the town I live in .On one side of the street there are bush supporters showing their ignorance and on the other side are the people who support Kerry, to me the Kerry supporters are the Americans with their eyes and ears wide open , oh ya and we are much smarter also .I mean imagine being fooled by an idiot like bush ,they should be ashamed on them selves . They had a rally their last weekend , however I was unaware of it .The young girl in charge of the Kerry rally ,only 21 and her frist time voing ,told me in a email the bush supporters where very rude , old ladies for bush yelling at the young girls on the Kerry side ,some of them only 17 (Kerry supporters) The old hags on bushes side dont know anything about any issuses ,so the just yell insults at the Kerry supporters !

he wouldnt lie about this. if so he would be in soooooo much trouble. it was powell and tenet at u.n. that convinced me. they were both opposed and i didnt think powell would betray the soldiers. powell is the one that convinced me

yup yup yup

and i too am addicted to this site.

but I knew the die was cast the minute Bush started talking about a war....

I bought a baby doll and cut its feet off and put tape over the "stumps" and painted red. Then marched with a sign that read, "A gift from the U.S.A."

Never trusted him--not from the moment he began his presidential run.

Being able to say "I told you so" is cold comfort.

Also addicted, especially living in a small town in the deep South 'cause like another poster wrote it gives me comfort to be with and talk to like-minded folks.

you have a real gift for participating in protest actions. That doll idea is damned powerful. Whew!

I kind of envisioned thousands and thousands of tiny arms and legs laid in front of the White House or sent to Congress critters.

As I am the mother of grown-up daughters I was thinking of the last time (some years ago) that I bought a doll. I also could help thinking of the little girls in Iraq who wouldn't have an arm to cradle their dolls, who wouldn't ever get a new dolly because my country, my president was giving them a grave instead--although the doll was meant to symbolize Iraqi babies and children themselves rather than their toys.

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receive news and other opinions.

I know exactly what you are experiencing when it comes to talking to "like minded" folks -- especially because its so easy to encounter idiots everywhere else!

I'm sorry you believed him, but I think you were probably trying to be a "good American" -- he has done the UNTHINKABLE with his actions.

In some ways, I think he's worse than Osama: at least Osama is supposed to hate us; this guy was supposed to protect us.

But, anyway, welcome to DU! :)

Its never too late.

I've been addicted to DU for about a year now. There's some medicine comin' soon tho.

:)

It's the only way to start my day! You're not alone in your addiction. After the election maybe we can all start a DU 12 step program. ;) This is where I get my political info. It's an endless source of reliable information and DU is usually DAYS ahead of the mainstream media. I love that.

You aren't the only citizen to believe the idiot-in-chief in his march to invade. :hug: I wasn't one of them, but many people actually trusted that asshole. I knew the day the SCOTUS selected the asshole to be prez that we would invade Iraq. I KNEW it. You have, at least, seen the light! Unlike a lot of freepers who still stand with him.

My husband told me that the chimp would pay for what he has done. He says, "This country is FULL of heroes who will never let him get away with this. He will pay. The TRUTH WILL come out." The chimp will go down and Kerry WILL investigate this regime. Eventually we will see them pay for what they have done.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

I'm addicted too and there are worse things we could be addicted to.

and you're turning out to be a good guy too. Glad you're with us, Rex_Goodheart. :hi:

I read at work and sometimes find myself putting my actual work off until the last minute because I'm afraid I'll miss something here. Then i log on when i get home too but family time tends to take precedence. But i know how you feel....i have learned so much here in the last several months.

that I got fired. I didn't have internet at home, and ...

I did some research on the net, and there is information on Internet Addiction ... loss of good judgement, typically people who also suffer from anxiety/depression already. Many times it involves gambling or porn, also chat rooms are addictive. Mine was pretty much DU and other liberal sites, and spreading the word with yahoo email.

Now I have internet at home, and I'm trying to start a business. I always hated having to be "in the workforce" anyway; well, not always, but for quite some time now, even well before the 'net problems.

but won't be fooled again...welcome to DU and i get the jones for DU whenever i'm away from a computer formore than a day too :hi: :7

even if he was right on in how he managed it.

Your wife will know what to do, in the event Kerry doesn't win. That event is seeming less and less likely.

go here.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2546424

...she seems to have more 'common sense'. Take her out to dinner, buy roses and pay attention from now on.

- Ten years of sanctions and satellites orbiting overhead watching Iraq's every move and you think Saddam was a danger?

That reminds me of one of my favorite scenes from Thelma and Louise, where Thelma has the cop at gunpoint. He whimpers that he has a wife and kids, and she advises him, "You be sweet to your wife. My husband wasn't sweet to me and look how I turned out."

It's hilarious, if you haven't seen it, tho the movie as a whole is anything but hilarious (one of my all-time favorites, tho).

:hi::hi:
you wont get much argument on the evil part...

let's take our country back, and get this fool jerk outta office.

hell, im right down the road from Crawford, but i'll put up with him being here permanently if it means getting him out of Washington.

His damage in Texas, and now the world is beyond disgusting.

but I can see why you bought it. After all, he's a stinking liar, but he's a convincing stinking liar.

I haven't gotten any work done since I joined in 2002!

Powell went before the UN and laid out a long list of things that were supposed to be in place and the threat it could further do to us right after the 9/11 attack. Within 2 weeks of the invasion I quickly realized how we were duped into this and to say I was saddened and outraged is an understatement. From that point on I have been speaking with as many people as I can to set them straight on the endless lies and acts this administration have committed on the innocent.

The greatest learning lesson out of all of this for me is, I will never put that much trust into any government official again. It's the patriotic duty of all of us to question any government official dealing with anything concerning the future of our country and livelihood.

And all the other new addicts. May we all be bolstered by the fact that a couple more states dropped into the "too close to call" category. For a few days now they have been showing Kerry only about 30 electoral votes needed to lock this thing up.

May the force be with him. Let's save America!

Professor 2

...there will be a lot of people who feel the way you do if things don't go our way.

Welcome to the Democratic Underground Anonymous Meeting.

I don't have many posts but have been lurking here for over 2 years. I can't get anything else done, I spend more time here than doing what I should be doing. I just hope Kerry wins so I can have a more balanced life.

Dian

I think many of us would be driven to even more insane levels of activism should the impossible happen.

As it is, though, I forsee a safe Kerry victory.

:toast: