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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:29 PM
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I Am The Only One Who Doesn't Like The Eminem 'Mosh' Song, Apparently.
Its message is alright I guess, but I can't take political preaching from an idiot like Eminem.

Plus, I don't like rap. Period.

But I guess the lyrics are O.K., and if it gets some people out to vote against bush who wouldn't otherwise, good I guess.
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aquaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:31 PM
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1. I think the song sucks too.....
Like the message.
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kanrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:32 PM
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2. I'm with you
CANNOT stand rap. Don't understand the attraction. I think Eminem is putz.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:32 PM
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3. Pete Townsend said it best, for me:
"Rap doesn't speak to me. But it's not supposed to. It's supposed to speak to the kids."
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stranger_with_candy Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:32 PM
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4. you're not the only one
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Stew225 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:33 PM
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5. I think the video--with lyrics, of course--is compelling but
tonight's performance sans video wouldn't have inspired anyone but an Eminem fan.
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Mr Bojangles Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:34 PM
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7. Agreed
Just watching him sway and stare at the floor prompter didn't move me like the video did. =/

The message is still there, and still good, though.
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:40 PM
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12. I agree
I lost respect for him for lip synching it.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:33 PM
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6. His music is much bigger than rap music itself
this guy really has his finger on the pulse of the American urban youth. He's big and he'll keep getting bigger for quite awhile. It's great to see Eminem getting politically active. If he inspired young people to get involved, then it's a good thing.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:38 PM
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9. i agree....
Edited on Sat Oct-30-04 11:58 PM by Tarheel_Dem
but eminem's appeal goes well beyond urban areas, which is why suburban parents feel threatened. people may not like the messenger, but the message is of paramount importance in these troubled times.

and besides, i don't think we're his target audience, as i am a middle aged political junkie. he's reaching out to those who generally have no interest in politics or the process, and this outreach may provoke a fraction of them to get off their a** & vote in their own best interest. at least, i hope so.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:36 PM
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8. I actually do like some rap
and the video for "Mosh" is genius- really chilling.

But I think, in all honesty, that the song itself is monotonous and uninspired.

I'm glad as hell that he's doing what he's doing though.
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Maiden England Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:39 PM
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10. I cannot force my brain to recognize it as music
I do however see it as very cool poetry and my mind is at piece with that notion. I sometimes listen to it.
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Peanut Gallery Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 09:42 AM
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32. Agreed, the imagery in the video is compelling
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 09:47 AM by Ravenswood
and evocative. I thought it was well done. I personally like the way the song builds slowly into a crescendo - with Eminem raising his voice to a shout at the end.
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rockydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:40 PM
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11. 'Mosh' is far from his best song
It's still a good song though IMO.

The guy is a lyrical genuis - very talanted.
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JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:40 PM
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13. yep - you are the only one!
:P



Spike tops unite!

I still miss Andy!
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:22 AM
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26. Seconded!
:D
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:51 PM
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14. I also thought it sucked. I don't like rap either. I didn't understand..
the lyrics and the background music sucked big time...even for rap. But like you, if the intended audience gets it and is inspired to vote, I'm all for it.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:58 PM
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15. HERE IS THE LINK
THAT YOU CAN VIEW AND LISTEN BUT I RECOMMEND YOU PRINT THE LYRICS AND WATCH OR SING ALONG... http://mosh.eminem.com/video/
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:02 AM
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16. Thanks. I will watch the video and read the lyrics.
I promise. :D
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rednek_Liberal Donating Member (243 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:04 AM
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17. Well its agood thing your opinion is so important to me then...
Cause I was thinking of liking the song, but now Im all like against it... I guess, but the messsage is still ok ... you know, For Kids.
So, here it is ... I hate rap, so naturally I'm supposed to hate this song, unless it supports my socio-political worldview.Gosh Can you tell me what I should think about The Boss.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:22 AM
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19. Maybe this is why your cat is giving you hell
the animal is trying to shock you into reality.

Em may be many things, but idiot isn't one of them.
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lakemonster11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:26 AM
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20. I don't like the song itself much
(though I'll admit that it's grown on me), but I like the video a lot. Plus, I'm always happy to hear another anti-Bush song, even if it isn't that great.

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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:36 AM
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21. Doubtful you are in his demographic influence group.
Luckily millions of others are.

Marshall is hardly an idiot, and this courageous pronouncement on his part is inspiring and patriotic to this 50 year old white man.

Your cultural preaching is quite irionic considering your denouncement of his political preaching.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:21 AM
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18. How is saying you don't like something "cultural preaching"?
Where does he or she tell anyone else they shouldn't like the song?
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 02:21 AM
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22. Mosh is smoking in so many ways... and I'm not really an Em fan...
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 02:24 AM by henslee
Every time I hear it, it sounds fresh. Forget the words, the tone is scary, ominous. Em speaks to the streets and in doing so, speaks to the mall kids who worship street. As an effective political statement, it rates high. (Maybe not to thirty year old bloggers.)

Lyrically, he gets right to the point and evokes awesome imagery, even if you never get to see the video which is killer. The rhymes are clever both at face value and in their delivery.

I've been listening to rap from the days of Whodini, though I cooled off after the first De La Sol album. I do not own an Eminem album but I am impressed. He continues to grow. He does not get enough credit for his 8 mile acting performance. How many rock stars can carry a movie like that? Bowie never did. Not Jagger. Not Snoop. Not Puffy. Cher and Babs don't count. Prince did it but Purple Rain did not age well. Beyonce can act in an ensmeble role. Face it, Em is a monster talent.
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Nightowl_2004 Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 02:37 AM
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23. Agreed, Good message but
I've never really been a fan of Eminems

:shrug:
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MsConduct Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 02:44 AM
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24. No, you're not alone. I think it stinks on ice. n/t
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:05 AM
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25. You don't like rap, You don't like Eminem.
please don't close your mind to the fact that he's trying to help up rid our country of the Bushies.

Some of you anti rap geezers sound like my dad when he went on and on bitching about rock and roll.
:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:
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vajraroshana Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:59 AM
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27. M&M is overrated......
....just a novelty act that got play because there's such a vacuum in the real talent

Glad he at least used his popularity for the good though....
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 05:10 AM
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28. You may
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 05:11 AM by fujiyama
or may not like the song (rap isn't my favorite genre either), but I don't understand who couldn't like the video (other than RWer).

It really rips Bush apart. The part where Osama is on the screen and it falls over, and right behind him - Bush and Cheney. Another great part is the woman coming home to find herself being evicted, while the TV shows Bush giving new tax cuts.

I personally like both the song and the video, but the video itself is effective.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 05:16 AM
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29. This is not the 1960s so Bob Dylan is not going to connect
with most kids and even with most people in their 30s and early 40s. Different times demand different songs. So, Eminem doesn't work for the original poster. Well, my nieces and nephews wouldn't be caught dead listening to the Dead or other people from the 60s and 70s, but they and their friends WILL listen to Eminem. Since it is they who may be called up in a draft, the song works.

To many people not of baby boomer age, the 60s don't resonate because it appears the baby boomers totally sold out and became what they claimed to hate.

I like Eminem and it took a few listenings for the song to grow on me. The work by GNN is awesome.

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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:41 AM
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30. THANK YOU....
It's cool if you just don't dig Em or the song, but you've got to give real attention to his influence on young people and his willingness to put a song like that on his album.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:43 AM
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31. I like rap and hip hop a lot...still thought it sucked
The lyrics seem hollow coming from Eminem.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:08 AM
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33. I can't stand rap - and loved it
I'm going to sneak the bass line into my church service, possibly as the prelude.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:28 AM
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34. No. There are always a few grumpy old codgers in any crowd.
Glad to realize that most of the codgers are younger than I. Rap is not my favorite kind of music--old hippie fart that I am. But I won't say that any genre of music is worthless; that's stupid.

The lyrics are intelligent & moving. The instrumental backing is effective & dramatic. The video is great.



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greyfox Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:32 AM
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36. Huh?
RAP is music? LOL
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greyfox Donating Member (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:31 AM
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35. I could have
and maybe should have, written exactly what you said... so, no, you are not alone at ALL!
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